trouble with webplugin.exe in Firefox & Chrome, but works in IE

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I've just received my new Dahua SD29204S-GN as a followup to the Dahua H2.65 IPC-HDW4431C-A that I received a week and a half ago. I checked the 4431 last week just to make sure it arrived undamaged, and it did. Then I reformatted my home computer and reloaded Windows 7 after a major hardware upgrade. I check the SD29204S-GN and in Firefox, I can get into the camera and click on the video interface to download the webplugin.exe file. I do so, install it, refresh, reload, reboot, and I'm still just stuck at the "click here to download plugin". I confirm this activity for both new cameras post-reformat. I even try getting different webplugin versions... 3.0.0.1 and 3.0.0.2 and 3.0.0.3 from the Dahua cameras I have there. All do the same thing. This is dumbfounding me, because this is a clean install of Windows, so doesn't have any bloated crap on top of it yet.

I confirm that the MMX plugin (MediaPlguin-v-3.3.37.274972) that requires activation after the loading of webplugin.exe does not even come up as an option on my freshly formatted computer under Firefox. Meanwhile, both cameras work correctly under Internet Exploder with the plugin. So.. any ideas on what's the disconnect here? Somewhere along the way, Firefox is not updating the frame which would normally give me the option to activate the MMX plugin and then display video in that frame. The same behavior occurs under Chrome btw.. Only IE works.. I definitely don't want o use IE.

The only thing different I can see is that on my work computers, the webplugin.exe installed to C:\Program Files\webrec\Torch\3.0.0.3 several different files. Additionally, there is also a folder in C:\Program Files (x86)\webplugin.exe with webplugin.exe3.0.0.2.exe and webplugin.exe3.0.0.2.dat from the older version. I don't have this folder loaded on my home box. I'm thinking that it might have spawned from the MMX plugin after activation. Either way, that's the only difference I can see.
 

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hmm, looks like it's not NPAPI, at least not in this case... I've got some machines working fine with Firefox.. It looks like Firefox is blocking the MMX plugin from being loaded. I've actually got two versions of it on a different machine that works fine, but getting it installed on my freshly formatted box is proving problematic. I'm going to have to keep investigating here and see what is the problem.
 

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ok, got it resolved. Sure enough, newer versions of Firefox are blocking the loading of the MMX plugin from the Dahua camera login page. You should see something like this when you load the login page whreby it will ask you to Allow or Block the MMX plugin.working MMX plugin.jpg working MMX plugin2.jpg
You will need to Allow & Remember to save the setting. The little icon that looks like a lego block in gray top left with the red circling around it is the plugin icon. If you don't see that icon, it's because newer versions of Firefox, at least with 46.0.1 will prevent the plugin load question from even being asked. It will just block it automatically. Once the plugin is loaded correctly, you should see it in your list of Addons as such:plugin list in Firefox.jpg

I fixed it by uninstalling Firefox, cleaning all remaining entries with ccleaner, rebooting, reinstalling Firefox 39.0, going to all my cameras and loading the plugins like normal, then allowing Firefox to autoupdate to 46.0.1 and it still works. No doubt this behavior will continue under future versions.
 

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Hi, regarding webplugin.exe: I have a couple different types of Dahuas, both SD & IPC, with different FW versions (it looks every FW carries different version of webplugin.exe).

The problem I'm facing is, one version of installed plugin works only with particular FW. So I want to manage different types of cameras, I need to constantly re-install the right plugin...

Is there a way around this?
 

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nayr SmartPSS doesn't seem to be able to control the varifocal zoom and focus can you confirm this? I can control through the cameras web page though.107p.PNG
 

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Varifocals are designed to be set it and forget it, they are not PTZ's.. adjusting zoom/focus on a regular basis is going to yield poor results.
 

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I agree completely, though its nice to be able to set it up through one software. but its all good, at least in my case one camera not in the other I cant change the Varifocal settings did you see my post
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Hi, regarding webplugin.exe: I have a couple different types of Dahuas, both SD & IPC, with different FW versions (it looks every FW carries different version of webplugin.exe).

The problem I'm facing is, one version of installed plugin works only with particular FW. So I want to manage different types of cameras, I need to constantly re-install the right plugin...

Is there a way around this?
I also hate it. I don´t understand, why i need to install for every cam different webplugins and it´s not well done being not downwards compatible. It´s really anoying for setting up i still use the webbrowser.
 

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Nayr thanks, yeah, you've got a point but SmartPSS is "alot of software" and I'm still deciding what to use, currently I've done more testing on my Synology SS, and it's a bit annoying ant time consuming to get to know all the new :D

Two more things that popped to my mind right now; one I've noticed, that PSS compared to SS in completely same scenario (same number of cams, settings, etc. pretty much same, still scenes), is utilizing 25-35% more CPU power...do you have maybe any experience with that, and two: regarding that, did you ever played with "HW" decoding of the streams, meaning, can you do it with let's say Synology SS or SmartPS, and, what are prerequisites (what kind of graphic card, drivers etc...)?

I mean, I'm getting 35-50% avg cpu utilization on my i7-4790 with 8 FHD streams (AVC,30fps, 8m MBR...)
 

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I have never touched a Synology SS; cant help you there.. perhaps its feeding you the sub-stream and not the main stream..

35-50% of a single core or overall system usage? That seems quite reasonable for 8 1080p streams if your viewing the main streams.. but there is no point in using the main streams in a grid display, even with a 4k monitor all would be scaled down to 720p tops..
 

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If you use Smart PSS 2.0 it can control zoom and focus.
View attachment 15368
Yes i found out that if you add cameras to SmartPSS you can control functions, but as nayr said if add your NVR you get all cameras and mobile access without opening ports for each camera.
Thanks for the picture though made me go look at why mine would not function ( no cameras installed just the NVR )
 

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I have installed ds216j for some customers. I can't find a plus for the integrated solution from synology.
Use it as a nas for the cam's, that's a reliable solution. Main thing is the IVS and apps from Dahua are working fine. I don't want to miss them. If you don't want to use the NAS for other purposes, you can better buy a Dahua NVR.
 

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What can be done with Dahua cameras from a plain Chrome or Firefox browser? Is it possible to access & control Dahua cameras in at least a limited manner without the webplugin.exe or a native application (like SmartPSS appears to be)? I obviously don't yet have any Dahua cameras or I wouldn't be asking so thanks in advance for putting up with my Dahua noob-ness.
 

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What can be done with Dahua cameras from a plain Chrome or Firefox browser?
Using vanilla Chrome won't work, you need to install a plugin. In just a few more days (March 7th) Mozilla is planning on releasing FireFox 52 which will depreciate all NPAPI plugins. A temporary solution is to switch to their ESR (Extended Support Release) but that will eventually stop working in ESR 59.

Failing that there is good ol' IE (Internet Explorer, not Edge), which is what I use to access all of my cameras.
 

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you can do everything config wise with any browser w/out the plugins for cameras; NVR's want the plugin/Chrome app but you can plug a monitor into em if your that desperate.
 

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I like the answer from @nayr , so why does @cryptelli say vanilla Chrome won't work? Is it just the live streaming that won't work without the plugin, so I'm good as long as I separately use an NVR or something like VLC to view the stream? Thanks again.
 
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