Dahua Starlight Varifocal Turret (IPC-HDW5231R-Z)

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ive successfully gone between PAL and NTSC firmware in both directions; the hardware is identical.. only the software is different.

Can you schedule IVS recording on your NVR through SmartPSS?
 

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Looking for feedback from those who have the NTSC version (IPC-HDW5231RN-Z). I've got the NTSC bullet version. It looks like they use the same firmware and there's a lot more critical mass on this thread. I'm using a 5216-4ks2 NVR and IVS setup does not work via the NVR. I don't have a problem setting up IVS directly with the camera, but it's only on the NVR interface that I can get to the "record channel" setting, and the nvr won't let me use it because it's not "liking" the camera for IVS. My camera firmware version is 2.460.0000.1, and nayr has posted a link to version 2.460.0000.2, however it's labeled as "pal firmware". Questions:

For anybody with the NTSC version, does your IVS setup work through the NVR?, and which firmware do you have in the camera?

Has anybody loaded the pal firmware into the ntsc camera, and how did it come out?
I've got 2.460.0000.1 NTSC on my turret and the 5216-4ks2 with 3.210.0002.2. I set up IVS for abandoned object but couldn't do it via the web interface on the NVR. I could get to the IVS page on the NVR but nothing worked on the page. It wouldn't let me click on anything or change which channel I wanted to configure. A guy in another thread suggested it worked for him using IE8, but I dug out an old machine at work with IE8 and it didn't make a difference. I was able to set up the rule just as I wanted using the OSD on the NVR though. There is obviously some kind of bug with the web interface and IVS. Although I'm not sure if it's related to the camera firmware or the NVR's.
 

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I've got 2.460.0000.1 NTSC on my turret and the 5216-4ks2 with 3.210.0002.2. I set up IVS for abandoned object but couldn't do it via the web interface on the NVR. I could get to the IVS page on the NVR but nothing worked on the page. It wouldn't let me click on anything or change which channel I wanted to configure. A guy in another thread suggested it worked for him using IE8, but I dug out an old machine at work with IE8 and it didn't make a difference. I was able to set up the rule just as I wanted using the OSD on the NVR though. There is obviously some kind of bug with the web interface and IVS. Although I'm not sure if it's related to the camera firmware or the NVR's.
Great info: Same nvr, same firmware, same behavior. I loaded the 2.460.0002.2 pal firmware into the camera and it didn't fix anything. The upgrade went smoothly, all of my configuration settings appear to be unchanged, and the camera is now pal-only. I did have to reinstall the web components. Using the OSD, when first trying to access the IVS configuration I get the message "channel 6 does not support configuration search or modification", and none of the settings are usable. If I select a different camera where IVS setup works ok, then reselect the problem camera, the settings begin to work. Existing rules set up directly on the camera are not shown. It will let me set up a new rule, act like all is good, but when I go direct to the camera the new rule isn't there. Since my chinese market cameras work ok with the IVS setup, I'm guessing the bug is in the camera as opposed to the nvr.

nayr, I can't find where to schedule the NVR recording via smartPss. Where do I look?
 

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I do all my IVS Rules on the camera and then just ensure the NVR is scheduled to record Smart Events (IVS), using the NVR to set it up kinda sucks unless your using the OSD Only.

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I was hooking up my first camera today and ran into a snag with the waterproof boot.

I'm using regular rj45 crimp connectors on my cat 6, and they're too big to fit in the boot included with the camera.

Anyone have this issue? I wouldn't have thought there would be any big difference in rj45 connectors.

I guess I'll just pick up some self vulcanizing electrical tape and seal it up with that.

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I was hooking up my first camera today and ran into a snag with the waterproof boot.

I'm using regular rj45 crimp connectors on my cat 6, and they're too big to fit in the boot included with the camera.

Anyone have this issue? I wouldn't have thought there would be any big difference in rj45 connectors.

I guess I'll just pick up some self vulcanizing electrical tape and seal it up with that.

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That's all I used, I prefer to have the connection under an eve or inside of a junction box or something but I think the sealing electrical tape should be fine if it gets rained on?
 

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That's all I used, I prefer to have the connection under an eve or inside of a junction box or something but I think the sealing electrical tape should be fine if it gets rained on?
So you can't close the boots either? There just isn't enough room for the RJ45 connector.

These will all be inside junction boxes (or in the case of this one inside a wall mount) so I'm not really concerned about them getting rained on. They're all also under the overhang of the house, and it seems the rain only falls straight down here.
 

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So you can't close the boots either? There just isn't enough room for the RJ45 connector.

These will all be inside junction boxes (or in the case of this one inside a wall mount) so I'm not really concerned about them getting rained on. They're all also under the overhang of the house, and it seems the rain only falls straight down here.
I don't even try to use those things lol. When I looked at it, it didn't look like it would be totally sealed anyways.
 

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I don't even try to use those things lol. When I looked at it, it didn't look like it would be totally sealed anyways.
Okay, fair enough. :) I'm sure it'll be fine without it, especially since I'm installing the cameras all in boxes (if they ever get here from B&H).
 

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Okay, fair enough. :) I'm sure it'll be fine without it, especially since I'm installing the cameras all in boxes (if they ever get here from B&H).
And that self sealing electrical tape is pretty awesome stuff from what I could tell.
 

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I was hooking up my first camera today and ran into a snag with the waterproof boot.

I'm using regular rj45 crimp connectors on my cat 6, and they're too big to fit in the boot included with the camera.

Anyone have this issue? I wouldn't have thought there would be any big difference in rj45 connectors.

I guess I'll just pick up some self vulcanizing electrical tape and seal it up with that.

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From the picture it looks to me like you're trying to use only one of the two pieces that make up the cable end of the boot. The piece in your picture screws onto the back of the other larger piece to snug up the seal around the cable. The actual seal and bayonet connector to the camera cable is in the other piece. Of course, to add the other piece you'll have to cut the rj45 off first :-(
 

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Okay, fair enough. :) I'm sure it'll be fine without it, especially since I'm installing the cameras all in boxes (if they ever get here from B&H).
Installed one on Saturday, retaining clip on connector prevented making complete seal until pressed down and inserted.
 

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From the picture it looks to me like you're trying to use only one of the two pieces that make up the cable end of the boot. The piece in your picture screws onto the back of the other larger piece to snug up the seal around the cable. The actual seal and bayonet connector to the camera cable is in the other piece. Of course, to add the other piece you'll have to cut the rj45 off first :-(
Correct, your missing the middle piece as it were.
 

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I was hooking up my first camera today and ran into a snag with the waterproof boot.

Anyone have this issue? I wouldn't have thought there would be any big difference in rj45 connectors.

I guess I'll just pick up some self vulcanizing electrical tape and seal it up with that.

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In the electrical section of many local hardware stores, they sell "liquid electrical tape". It is typically a short jar with a brush attached to the cap. I brush that on just at the junction and let is sit for 20 minutes or so, typically dry to the touch at that point. When swapping out a camera later, it peels off without too much effort. Smells terrible when wet, but makes a waterproof seal (according to the label).
 

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I do all my IVS Rules on the camera and then just ensure the NVR is scheduled to record Smart Events (IVS), using the NVR to set it up kinda sucks unless your using the OSD Only.
Your smartPss looks different from mine. Mac version, I assume? I think I've got the latest Windows version, and it doesn't give access to the nvr schedule, which I do ok with on the web interface. That's not the setting I'm looking for, which is "record channel" on the IVS page, where you can select more than one camera to trigger on an event. My Windows smartPss is 1.16.1, dated 1-19-17.
 

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This is SmartPSS 2.0, you should update..

Ah, yeah getting more than one camera to trigger on an event is only something Ive gotten to work via OSD
 

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This is SmartPSS 2.0, you should update..

Ah, yeah getting more than one camera to trigger on an event is only something Ive gotten to work via OSD
Maybe the Mac versioning is different? 1.16 is the newest I saw on their site too
 

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there's 2 major versions on the site, they are maintaing them both.. look again but this time at version numbers and not dates.

this is common, its hard to retrain employees when new software comes out.. so for a while they will maintain both for this transition before abandoning maintenance on the 1.x version.. Quite typical behavior for professional production software.
 

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There is a new smartPss for windows, version 2.00.1. It's dated less than a week ago. I found the download link on another thread, here it is again http://www1.dahuasecurity.com/download_detail_3221.html . The UI looks like the picture nayr inserted in post 2308 earlier today. I installed it on windows 7.

The UI has changed enough that you have to do some relearning. It has a bunch more settings available than the older version. Wouldn't you know it, the one thing I was specifically looking for doesn't work. This is the channel-by-channel IVS setup in the NVR (event/intelligent analyze in smartPss). Instead of working it says "Load video analyze capability set failed!". Everything else I tried in the first session worked.
 
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