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I have been looking at building a blue iris system and recently in our area there has been some stuff going on that made me speed up the process.

The computer I'm looking at is
Inspiron 3000 series Small Desktop in a compact form | Dell Canada

The switches I'm looking at are
8-port Linksys Smart LGS308P - Switch - Managed - 8 x 10/100/1000 (PoE+) - desktop - PoE+ (72 W) - AC 100/230 V | Dell Canada

16-port Linksys LGS116P Switch unmanaged 8 x 10/100/1000 (PoE+) + 8 x 10/100/1000 desktop, wall-mountable PoE+ AC 100/230 V (LGS116P) | Dell Canada

Just looking for some input. Is the computer to small? To big? Should I go with the managed switch? Or in managed and have more expandibilty ? Any input is appreciated.
 
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MKane said:
I have been looking at building a blue iris system and recently in our area there has been some stuff going on that made me speed up the process.

The computer I'm looking at is
Inspiron 3000 series Small Desktop in a compact form | Dell Canada

The switches I'm looking at are
8-port Linksys Smart LGS308P - Switch - Managed - 8 x 10/100/1000 (PoE+) - desktop - PoE+ (72 W) - AC 100/230 V | Dell Canada

16-port Linksys LGS116P Switch unmanaged 8 x 10/100/1000 (PoE+) + 8 x 10/100/1000 desktop, wall-mountable PoE+ AC 100/230 V (LGS116P) | Dell Canada

Just looking for some input. Is the computer to small? To big? Should I go with the managed switch? Or in managed and have more expandibilty ? Any input is appreciated.
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that system is overpriced and way underpowered...search optiplex and elitedesk on this forum...lots of posts on pc's and switches...
ZyXEL Fanless 8 Port GbE 70w PoE+ L2 Web Managed Switch(GS1900-8HP): Amazon.ca: Computers & Tablets this same switch is available for 90 dollars in the us...
 
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fenderman said:
that system is overpriced and way underpowered...search optiplex and elitedesk on this forum...lots of posts on pc's and switches...
ZyXEL Fanless 8 Port GbE 70w PoE+ L2 Web Managed Switch(GS1900-8HP): Amazon.ca: Computers & Tablets this same switch is available for 90 dollars in the us...
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Would something like this be better?
Dell Optiplex 990MT, Intel i5-2400,8GB Memory,1TB Hard Drive, DVDRW, Windows 10 Pro(English/French),1YW, Refurb

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Dell OptiPlex 980 Desktop, Intel Core i7, 8GB RAM, 1TB HDD, DVD-RW, Windows 10 Pro, 1 Year Warranty - Refurbished
 
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I just purchased BI last weekend. I have 2 of my POE cameras installed and 5 more ordered plus 3 wifi cameras.
I'm running on a system i recently built for gaming.

Mother board is asrock Intel Z97 Extreme6
I7 4790
32 gigs RAM
GTX-1050TI video card
Two Samsung 960 EVO Series - 500GB NVMe - M.2 Internal SSD
one Samsung 850 EVO 500GB 2.5-Inch SATA III Internal SSD
one Seagate 2TB FireCuda Gaming SSHD (Solid State Hybrid Drive)
one 1TB Western Digital HD
and a external Seagate 5TB backup drive
TP-LINK TL-SF1008P 10/100Mbps 8-port Desktop PoE Switch
Seven, SV3C Full HD 1080P 2MP Bullet Outdoor Security Camera Poe IP Camera,1920X1080 Resolution,20Meter Night Vision
Two, SV3C 960P HD Wifi Wireless IP Camera Dome Security Camera
one, Dericam 1080P Full HD WiFi IP Security Camera 1080p Pan/Tilt Control, 4x Digital Zoom, Night Vision and Two-Way Audio
 
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HULKEN said:
I just purchased BI last weekend. I have 2 of my POE cameras installed and 5 more ordered plus 3 wifi cameras.
I'm running on a system i recently built for gaming.

Mother board is asrock Intel Z97 Extreme6
I7 4790
32 gigs RAM
GTX-1050TI video card
Two Samsung 960 EVO Series - 500GB NVMe - M.2 Internal SSD
one Samsung 850 EVO 500GB 2.5-Inch SATA III Internal SSD
one Seagate 2TB FireCuda Gaming SSHD (Solid State Hybrid Drive)
one 1TB Western Digital HD
and a external Seagate 5TB backup drive
TP-LINK TL-SF1008P 10/100Mbps 8-port Desktop PoE Switch
Seven, SV3C Full HD 1080P 2MP Bullet Outdoor Security Camera Poe IP Camera,1920X1080 Resolution,20Meter Night Vision
Two, SV3C 960P HD Wifi Wireless IP Camera Dome Security Camera
one, Dericam 1080P Full HD WiFi IP Security Camera 1080p Pan/Tilt Control, 4x Digital Zoom, Night Vision and Two-Way Audio
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you will want to remove the gtx card...blue iris needs intel hd with quicksync for hardware acceleration....blue iris and any vms should be run on a dedicated machine....also avoid those junk brand cameras if you are serious about a stable reliable system.
 
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Fenderman,
According to toms hardware an Asrock motherboard bios will allow onboard and dedicated graffics card at the same time.
Do you think I would get the benefits of quick sync that way?
 
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Fenderman,
According to toms hardware an Asrock motherboard bios will allow onboard and dedicated graffics card at the same time.
Do you think I would get the benefits of quick sync that way?
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You should....test and see
 
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If you are going to run Blue Iris on a gaming PC (one that is actually used for gaming too) then you should use Process Tamer to limit Blue Iris to a fraction of the CPU cores, so your gaming performance doesn't suffer too badly.

Also, that is a strange set of hardware choices for a gaming PC. Way too much ram and SSD $$$ and an outdated CPU combined with a low end GPU?
 
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I would wonder about the electricity costs to run that rig 24/7 versus a dedicated pc for BI.
 
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That graphics card will only draw about 10 watts when idle, and the SSDs about 1 watt each (or less, depending on the idle mode) so the additional electricity cost isn't very big.
 
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bp2008 said:
If you are going to run Blue Iris on a gaming PC (one that is actually used for gaming too) then you should use Process Tamer to limit Blue Iris to a fraction of the CPU cores, so your gaming performance doesn't suffer too badly.

Also, that is a strange set of hardware choices for a gaming PC. Way too much ram and SSD $$$ and an outdated CPU combined with a low end GPU?
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The I7-4790,I was told by PortaTech where i ordered it, Is over kill for gaming currently. He said to upgrade the video card later. So far that has been the case. I havent seen it over 30% running Starcraft 2 and World of Tanks at 4K (3840x2160) resolution getting around 30fps minimum with all video and audio settings maxed out. I have seen it running at 50% with BI console open and three 2MP cameras @1920x1080 25fps and converting stores video to mpeg4. When i have BI running as a service only the CPU runs at 5%. As far as the GTX 1050ti, I went with it anthe motherboard and CPU because i dont waste the money buying the latest and greatest. There is always a sweet spot for power vs money. The 1050ti was $150. A GTX 1080ti is $700+, which i plan on going to when the price comes down.

PS: I was running a Asus P5ND2 with a 3.2ghz Pentium D 4Gig ram and dual Nvidia 9500GT video cards before this. Ran it fo about 10 years. had to replace power supply 3 times. It still works.
 
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HULKEN said:
The I7-4790,I was told by PortaTech where i ordered it, Is over kill for gaming currently. He said to upgrade the video card later. So far that has been the case. I havent seen it over 30% running Starcraft 2 and World of Tanks at 4K (3840x2160) resolution getting around 30fps minimum with all video and audio settings maxed out. I have seen it running at 50% with BI console open and three 2MP cameras @1920x1080 25fps and converting stores video to mpeg4. When i have BI running as a service only the CPU runs at 5%. As far as the GTX 1050ti, I went with it anthe motherboard and CPU because i dont waste the money buying the latest and greatest. There is always a sweet spot for power vs money. The 1050ti was $150. A GTX 1080ti is $700+, which i plan on going to when the price comes down.

PS: I was running a Asus P5ND2 with a 3.2ghz Pentium D 4Gig ram and dual Nvidia 9500GT video cards before this. Ran it fo about 10 years. had to replace power supply 3 times. It still works.
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Right. Certainly that is a huge upgrade. I've had to replace my fair share of power supplies too -- #1 failing item in my PCs, just ahead of storage devices.

I'm sure that system performs great for what you use it for. I'm just commenting on the odd selection of parts. 32 GB of RAM and multiple NVMe SSDs are a strange place to put extra money when you are buying a 3 year old CPU/motherboard and a low end graphics card. Just trading half the ram for a GTX 1060 would have been a very real upgrade.

By the time the price on a 1080ti comes down by any meaningful amount, there will be a better card for the same or less money.
 
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bp2008 said:
Right. Certainly that is a huge upgrade. I've had to replace my fair share of power supplies too -- #1 failing item in my PCs, just ahead of storage devices.

I'm sure that system performs great for what you use it for. I'm just commenting on the odd selection of parts. 32 GB of RAM and multiple NVMe SSDs are a strange place to put extra money when you are buying a 3 year old CPU/motherboard and a low end graphics card. Just trading half the ram for a GTX 1060 would have been a very real upgrade.

By the time the price on a 1080ti comes down by any meaningful amount, there will be a better card for the same or less money.
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I have my C drive on the 1st M.2 slot which is Ultra M.2 PCIe Gen3 x4. I install games on the 2nd slot which is M.2 PCIe Gen2 x2 . This makes my video card run at 8x but from what I have read there isn't a noticeable difference between 8x and 16x pciexpress. I'm thinking about moving my BI program install to the 2nd M.2 drive also. My NEW recording folder is the SSD on the SATA .

looks pretty sweet on dual samsung 28'' 4K monitors from Costco.
 
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I have a I7-6700 @ 3.40 GHz - how do I add Intel Quick Sync , is it possible with this and why didn't it include it with the setup?
 
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Intel Quick Sync is part of the CPU, and should work if the onboard video outputs work. A common reason for it not working is if you have a third party graphics card installed and your BIOS is configured to only enable the card and not the onboard graphics.
 
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bp2008 said:
Intel Quick Sync is part of the CPU, and should work if the onboard video outputs work. A common reason for it not working is if you have a third party graphics card installed and your BIOS is configured to only enable the card and not the onboard graphics.
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Yes, I have Nvidia K1200 - the mobo had a video card but I do not use it as I am running 4 monitors and it was unable to have 4 monitors.
 
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