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ka70 said:
Hello all, I am a relative newbie to the board camera world. I have one of these boards with wifi, but the wifi seems to be plugged into a part of the board I cannot get the pin information on. There are 8 "pin" I/O section(proper term?). There is a 4 pin white female connector there. See pics.
Any help would be appreciated.
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That's an IPC HI3518E 50H10PE-S board, the same as I have and shown here http://www.ipcamtalk.com/ip-cameras/1812-review-top-201-super-mini-720p-hd-ip-cam-cheapest-ip-cam-post25623.html#post25623. And in post http://www.ipcamtalk.com/ip-cameras/1812-review-top-201-super-mini-720p-hd-ip-cam-cheapest-ip-cam-post25247.html#post25247 there's an image with the pin out. Thanks for the question and your images as now I know what the pins labelled as USB were used for.

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@bls - I'm curious how you have taken such good pictures. Large depth of focus, all in focus, fine resolution, exquisite detail.
Do tell.
 
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That's an IPC HI3518E 50H10PE-S board, the same as I have and shown here http://www.ipcamtalk.com/ip-cameras/1812-review-top-201-super-mini-720p-hd-ip-cam-cheapest-ip-cam-post25623.html#post25623. And in post http://www.ipcamtalk.com/ip-cameras/1812-review-top-201-super-mini-720p-hd-ip-cam-cheapest-ip-cam-post25247.html#post25247 there's an image with the pin out. Thanks for the question and your images as now I know what the pins labelled as USB were used for.

Barry
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Thank Barry

I am looking to upgrade to a 2mp(or more) board, any suggestions? Basically want the same single 38mm board much better resolution +audio+network. Is there a source of info like board camera building for dummies?
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TheUberOverLord said:
These are from the manufacturers website of all their IPC ("Chinese for 'IP Camera'") boards/models products, mentioned in this Forum thread. As you can/will see, there are many different boards/models produced by this manufacturer than just the Top-201 - 1 mp board model:

Complete list of board/model specifications:

wiki.xm030.com:81/%E4%BA%A7%E5%93%81%E5%8F%82%E6%95%B0/English/IPG%E6%A8%A1%E7%BB%84/ - Translator

Note: After clicking to open a specific document at the above link. You will get an error, then click the "Go to Original page" link on the page in the upper right of that page.

2 mp boards models/specifications:

http://wiki.xm030.com:81/产品参数/English/IPG模组/Parameters for 2M Low-illumination CMOS IP Camera Module(Hi).pdf

5 mp boards models/specifications:

http://wiki.xm030.com:81/产品参数/English/IPG模组/Parameters for 5M Low-illumination CMOS IP Camera Module(Hi).pdf

If you don't have Microsoft Word or Open Office. You will need to install the free Microsoft word viewer, from Microsoft. To open the pin out documents here:

How to obtain the latest Word Viewer

Pin Outs for all these 1 mp, 1.3 mp, 2 mp and 5 mp boards and models:

wiki.xm030.com:81/interface/IPC/%E6%8E%A5%E5%8F%A3%E8%AF%B4%E6%98%8E/Hi%E6%A8%A1%E7%BB%84/ - Translator

Pin Outs for the PoE board:

http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=&to=en&a=http://wiki.xm030.com:81/interface/IPC/%E6%8E%A5%E5%8F%A3%E8%AF%B4%E6%98%8E/POE%e6%a8%a1%e5%9d%97/

Note: After clicking to open a specific pin out document at the above two links. You will get an error, then click the "Go to Original page" link on the page in the upper right of that page.

You will then need to then copy/paste the Chinese pin out text from the document into a translator like Microsoft or Google to translate to English ("Or another language"):

Microsoft's Translator

Bing Translator

Google's Translator

https://translate.google.com/?hl=en&tab=wT

Example board model pin out document:

表-核心板接口详细定义(P5座子默认不焊接，客户需自行焊接)​

标注
针脚编号
针脚定义
功能
P1
1
ICR信号
控制ICR
2
ICR信号
控制ICR
P2
1
红外灯控制信号输入
红外灯控制ICR
2
GND
接地
3
NC
空闲脚
P3
1
+48
POE正极
2
+48_GND
POE负极
3
GND
地
4
+12V_IN
+12V
P4
1
ETHRX-
ETHERNET 信号
2
ETHRX+
ETHERNET 信号
3
LEDLINKA
网速指示灯
4
ETHTX-
ETHERNET 信号
5
ETHTX+
ETHERNET 信号
6
NET_LED_ACT
连接指示灯
P5
1
GND
接地
2
USB_DP
USB差分信号
3
USB_DM
USB差分信号
4
+5V
5V电源
5
AC_OUT
音频输出
6
AC_LINE
音频输入
7
音频模拟地
地
8
Alarm-in
报警输入


Translated:

Hass 38 board-type module interface specification

Table - a detailed definition of the core board interface (P5 transposon default is not welding, customers should make their own welding)

Pin No. Pin-defined function annotation

P1

1 ICR ICR signal control
2 ICR ICR signal control

P2

1 infrared light control signal input infrared light control ICR
2 GND Ground
3 NC idle feet

P3

1 +48 POE positive
2 + 48_GND POE negative
3 GND ground
4 + 12V_IN + 12V

P4

1 ETHRX- ETHERNET Signal
2 ETHRX + ETHERNET Signal
3 LEDLINKA speed indicator
4 ETHTX- ETHERNET Signal
5 ETHTX + ETHERNET Signal
6 NET_LED_ACT connection indicator

P5

1 GND Ground
2 USB_DP USB differential signal
3 USB_DM USB differential signal
4 + 5V 5V supply
5 AC_OUT audio output
6 AC_LINE audio input
7 audio analog-ground
8 Alarm-in alarm input

For more links to this manufacturers documentation and software downloads. Please see this was well:

http://www.ipcamtalk.com/ip-cameras/1812-review-top-201-super-mini-720p-hd-ip-cam-cheapest-ip-cam-post19499.html#post19499

Don
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Thank you very much!

Ka
 
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Hey all,

after all I figured it out. If anybody is interested how to show this cam directly on your Android, here are the settings for IPCamViewer :

Marke : Unknown Brand
Model : DVR-9008HV
TCP Port : 34567 (default setting)
Channel :1

Worked like a charm !!!!

Greetings

Oliver
 
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Is there a release note for the firmware update to show what has been added/fixed?
 
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alastairstevenson said:
@bls - I'm curious how you have taken such good pictures. Large depth of focus, all in focus, fine resolution, exquisite detail.
Do tell.
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1. A camera with a proper lens helps and I use a Fuji FinePix HS10. I chose it mainly for it's lens as I like to document all of my projects and wanted something that could take decent closeups of whatever down to just several inch's in size and the HS10 has several macro modes that allow it to focus down to 1cm. I also wanted something that could be used for more general photography and liked the fact that it had a 30X zoom lense as I didn't want to have to spend what a SLR with several different interchangable lenses would cost. Anyway, the important thing here is that you need something that can focus properly on what you want to photograph and, in case you're wondering, with the zoom lens of the HS10 images like you saw in post http://www.ipcamtalk.com/ip-cameras/1812-review-top-201-super-mini-720p-hd-ip-cam-cheapest-ip-cam-post25906.html#post25906 were taken from about 12 inch's.

2. Proper lighting is also important. I'm certainly no expert on this and am always looking for a better lighting solution, but, like I said above, I like to document all of my projects and take a lot of closeups and the last 2 photos on Workshop Renovations show the light box setup that I built and use. Like I mention on that page, such even lighting often produces images lacking in contrast, but the next item takes care of that.

3. Photoshop (or similar software) can work wonders. First, I like to start with a fairly high res image (mine from the HS10 are 3648 x 2736) so I don't have to worry about getting the composition perfect when taking them and can straighten and crop them as needed later and still be left with a fairly high res image. Contrast is then adjusted and in many cases I use the auto bracketing feature to take 2 additional images, one with slightly more exposure and another with slightly less, and then combine the 3 images for one with a greater dynamic range than normally possible.

Anyway, I hope this helps a bit. It's a pretty brief explaination, but it's a bit off topic and there's other forums where one can learn much more about all of this.
 
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Quickly Rebooting Cycle

I've purchased 02 top-201 cameras. Since they arrived, I've connected the cameras in ZoneMinder (with my others D-link cams). I used the configurations from user harrijs in this post.

My question: the cameras (the both) work very well for 3 or 4 days and then they stop to work.

Trying to find the problem, I perceived that the orange led turns on and lights by 20 seconds then it turns off and the green led turns on to suddenly the orange led turns on (and the green led turns off). This happens in a infinite cycle.

I tryed to ping the cams and there is answers while the orange led is on.

I believe the cams are rebooting, but I don't understand why.

Had someone the same matter?

(PS: The cams are directly connected in a PC ATX +5V power supply and they have access to 10Amperes).
 
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Monitor the +12V with a voltmeter or even a LED (with an appropriate value of current limiting resistor of course) to insure the 12V is solid and not dropping for an instant. Some PC PSU will do that if the power supply doesn't have enough of a load on the 5V line (I believe it's the 5V, but could be wrong.)
 
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PS: The cams are directly connected in a PC ATX +5V power supply and they have access to 10Amperes
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If you really do have the cameras connected to a 5V power supply - as opposed to the 12V that's required - I'm amazing there is any sign of life from them.
 
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Found that a while ago when I was looking for what to connect the green wire to... so a few of the reads are mine (but not all of them, lol)

But I'm glad this threat has woken up again, as I've succumbed to temptation and ordered some boards and cases :)
 
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Hi lojix

I ordered http://www.aliexpress.com/item/FPV-Square-Mini-Metal-CCTV-camera-case-Housing-for-38-38MM-ccd-Board/32297031266.html

as they have the shorter threaded lens mounting more suited for pin hole lens application, but should be fine with standard lens as well

I have no idea at this time as to how I will achieve the board fixing (with or without ir cut filters) but will worry about that when they arrive and post the pictures.

As this 'project' will not require the use of IR then I may use a filter (removing the threaded section) just to act as spacer, but I'm sure all will be simple 'ish :rolleyes:

Will not be adding POE into these thin camera boxes as it will be easier just to add an in-line poe splitter / converter to 12v

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/10-100M-PoE-Splitter-with-IEEE-802-3af-Standard-12V-1A-Output-DC48-57V-Input-Power/1810034358.html
 
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