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bp2008,

Thank you for your reply and I know this is gonna sound really dumb...but, where can I find my IP address of my BI server?

It is listed in Blue Iris options on the web server tab, and you can also ask google how to find a computer's IP address.

Bp, ok, I found it and it now works well. Thanks again!

Another quick question...

Can I type this in any computer outside my network and still access my cameras?

[I have not been able to access my system with remote access for over a year now].

And who can I ask to help me set up my remote access again?

Spend some time learning about IP networking. Seriously, you'll be better off for it.

This might help: VPN Primer for Noobs

Blue Iris updated for me on Oct 25. When I try to use ui2.htm or login.htm,
for example: http://192.168.0.6/login.htm, I get connection errors like:
This site can’t be reached
192.168.0.6 refused to connect.

If I use http://192.168.0.6:83/login.htm (IE WITH THE PORT NUMBER) the browser (chrome) stops "thinking" after 2 seconds
and leaves me with a purely white blank page.

I checked port 83 using Open Port Check Tool and it is indeed open.

I should perhaps mention that the Blue Iris software program running on my desktop computer has no problems displaying all my cameras.

The desktop computer running BI is at 192.168.0.6 and blue iris is set to use port 83. In my modem, port 83 is forwarded for Blue Iris.
I tried ui2.htm and login both with and without the port 83 number (because I wasn't sure which way to use).
Either way I just get error messages I've mentioned above. I tried internet explorer with similar results.

Two of my cameras are AXIS 213 IP cameras. I have port-forwarding set up for them and can access them on the WAN or LAN addresses
indepenently from Blue Iris. But other cameras are no IP cams so I need to use Blue Iris when I want to access them away from home.

In the instructions for using the blue iris tools (ie ui2 or login. htm) I read somewhere that users might have to point
the file to the correct URL. I can't find where in all that source code for the ui2.htm file, where I would change a URL or port number.

Also, I often use the IP CAM VIEWER APP on my android phone, but since the Blue Iris update the IP CAM VIEWER APP
no longer finds my cameras running on Blue Iris on my desktop computer.
Also, ever since that Blue Iris update, the Blue Iris APP for android gives a "unable to reach server" error message.

I've checked that port 83 is indeed what BI is set to use and that the port is forwarded for the computer running it (192.168.0.6).
I've checked that the Blue Iris APP is looking at port 83 also, both for the LAN and the WAN addresses.

There were other issues before updating Blue Iris. I mention them because they might be related somehow to the problems above.
Since getting a new modem from CenturyLink a few months ago, I found that my android phone Blue Iris APP would
not connect to the WAN address (with port 83) unless I turned off the WI-FI on the phone or else got out of physical range of the WI-FI
by taking a walk outside a few hundred feet.
I understand that forces the phone use an phone data plan connection to the internet
but I don't understand why it couldn't get to my WAN address while using a WI-FI connection to the internet.
The computer running Blue Iris is hard-wired (ie ETHERNET connection to the modem). It is
not connecting using WI-FI.

I've tried giving all the information you might need to help me figure out what is wrong. I hope someone can help me.

THANKS !!

Priscilla

Do you have latest version files for ui2 installed.

When connected to WiFi, you need to use the local ip 192.168.0.6.

You need to stop port forwarding, it's a security risk. Search here for VPN for Noobs.

Turn off auto update in Bi. Always keep an older version file to revert to if your having issues. Search for bp2008 biupdatehelper.

looney2ns said:

Do you have latest version files for ui2 installed.

When connected to WiFi, you need to use the local ip 192.168.0.6.

You need to stop port forwarding, it's a security risk. Search here for VPN for Noobs.

Turn off auto update in Bi. Always keep an older version file to revert to if your having issues. Search for bp2008 biupdatehelper.

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Thank you.

Yes I downloaded the latest Ui2 package and extracted it into the www folder of Blue Iris 4.
I do not have any previous version of Blue Iris because I have always let it update whenever it says there is an update available.

RE: port forwarding: doesn't BI require its port to be forwarded? ie usually port 81 but port 83 in my case. If not, I don't know
how BI gets beyond the firewall/ NAT router.

This afternoon I read the VPN for Noobs file further up this thread. I will need more information about how to set up and use VPN.
I don't really want to pay for a service that provides VPN. I hope it can be done without that.

birdfeedercams said:

I can't find where in all that source code for the ui2.htm file, where I would change a URL or port number.

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You don't need to change any source code. The comment

You will probably need to modify the URL to point at your Blue Iris machine.

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is only talking about what you enter in the address bar in your browser. In your case you would want to use this address when you are on your home network (e.g. connected by wifi): http://192.168.0.6:83/ui2.htm

When you are connecting via cellular then you need to use your public IP address instead of the local address.

birdfeedercams said:

I don't understand why it couldn't get to my WAN address while using a WI-FI connection to the internet.

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If it used to work before you got the new modem, then that means two things:

1) Those modems were/are acting as routers.
2) The old modem/router supported "hairpin NAT" and the new one probably does not.

If you still can't talk to the Blue Iris web server, try it from the Blue Iris machine itself to see if the web server is even running correctly.

See if either of these URLs works from a browser on your BI web server.

http://127.0.0.1:83/ui2.htm (127.0.0.1 always points at the PC's own network adapter)
http://192.168.0.6:83/ui2.htm

If the first address works and the second does not, then you are wrong about your BI machine's IP address.

If the second address works on the BI machine but not from any other machine on the LAN, then you probably have Windows firewall blocking the traffic.

birdfeedercams said:

RE: port forwarding: doesn't BI require its port to be forwarded? ie usually port 81 but port 83 in my case. If not, I don't know
how BI gets beyond the firewall/ NAT router.

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BI does not require its port to be forwarded. That is something most people do so they can remotely access BI, but it is not required to use BI's web server on your local network.

Hi;

Thank you.
Neither of the two URLs work on this desktop machine running BI. I suppose the windows firewall is the problem for that??
I have a laptop running here alongside the desktop computer. It also gives a blank white page with no error messages
just as this desktop machine does.

I'm at a loss as to what to do. The ODD thing is that the BLUE IRIS APP for android phone USED TO WORK until this latest
Blue Iris update on Oct 25.

On another note, I've been doing some reading about VPNs. What I have not found yet is information more specific to folks
wanting to see their webcams remotely using a VPN. I don't know if that takes any special / different configuration than that used
just for casual browsing remotely using my laptop at a coffee shop for example.

Priscilla

If you can't load pages through BI's web server even on the BI machine itself then that means the web server is not working. Check and double check the web server settings and disable and re-enable the web server.

VPN services that are hosted by a third party for the purposes of private web browsing are not useful for remotely viewing your cameras. For a VPN to give you secure remote access to your cameras, you have to set up the VPN server at your own home so that when you connect a phone/laptop/etc to the VPN, then you are connecting securely to your own home.

I closed BI and re-opened it, tested the two 192 address - no luck.
Then I uncheccked the web server in BI and closed it then activated it again.
Still just blank white page at the 192 address.
I ran the "remote access wizard" and everything works until the last test page where it says "remote server gives error"
Still, the canyouseeme web page sees port 83 open.

Do I have to buy something physical device that will act as the VPN server at home or is there software to run on this machine that will act
as the VPN server?

Perhaps your web server root folder path got messed up. You could also try changing the port number in case something else took port 83 (unlikely).

If your router doesn't have VPN server capability built in, you can install something on your machine at home (and no, I can't help with that).

I rebooted the computer and changed the port to 81. Some years ago I had an IP camera on port 83
which for some reason I couldn't alter, but now that camera is gone so I have no reason not to use 81.
Nonetheless this didn't help. The remote wizard still gives an error on the last step "error from server" or some such thing.

Is there some place else on this forum/website where I should post the problem I am having with Blue Iris
since it is not specifically a problem with your ui2 tools?

Thanks for your help. I do appreciate it.

Priscilla

Port numbers can be the same on multiple devices The port numbers your ip camera listens on have nothing to do with the port number that Blue Iris's web server listens on.

This subforum might get more attention for your problem:
Troubleshooting

First I'd like to thank bp2008 for such a great interface. Your hardwork is really evident here.

I am however having a very small problem. When I use UI2 from the same subnet (for example, BI is 192.168.1.100 and my IP is 192.168.1.150), everything works great.

However, when I access UI2 from another subnet (for example, I'm at 192.168.2.123), every time I visit the page, it requires a refresh/auto-relogin. I can quite literally be viewing the UI2 pages, switch tabs, switch back and it needs to relogin.

Any ideas why?

encoad said:

First I'd like to thank bp2008 for such a great interface. Your hardwork is really evident here.

I am however having a very small problem. When I use UI2 from the same subnet (for example, BI is 192.168.1.100 and my IP is 192.168.1.150), everything works great.

However, when I access UI2 from another subnet (for example, I'm at 192.168.2.123), every time I visit the page, it requires a refresh/auto-relogin. I can quite literally be viewing the UI2 pages, switch tabs, switch back and it needs to relogin.

Any ideas why?

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That is really strange. I haven't got a clue.

I invite everyone to try the beta version of UI3 (the upcoming official web interface).

Blue Iris UI3 beta test is now open!

bp2008 said:

That is really strange. I haven't got a clue.

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@encoad Try with a different browser. Do you have same issue with new browser?