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marku2

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I will look at this once my connection is up
Makes London’s camera system look small
 

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I like that body-tracking camera, how much? :)

Seriously, how do they deal with people who wear hoodies?
 
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Surprisingly, Dahua is mentioned and Dahua branded cameras are shown but nothing about state-owned Hikvision.
 

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Makes London’s camera system look small
It's not just London. Every city in the UK has extensive cameras as do all major roads. Last estimate was around 5 million in the UK.

That's a lot of cameras for the Chinese though, although it is a much bigger country. Just one flaw in their plan though, don't a lot of the Chinese wear smog masks though like this:

(This is actually Mexico, because I couldn't find a non photo bank image on google of China):



I'm guessing whilst not impossible, facial recognition is a whole lot harder.

I do wish I'd bought shares in Dahua though! 500 million guaranteed sales is a lot!
 

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Lets not forget that China also has access to millions of cameras in the US/Worldwide....
Yes I thought that Fender when the Kaspersky allegations 1st appeared. The Governments are worried about AV, but no-one appears to have given a thought to the fact that the security cameras in many top secret installations from government buildings to Area 51, will have been manufactured in all probability by Chinese companies, some of which is state owned. That doesn't mean those companies have done anything wrong of course, their systems could all be secure and independent from foreign Governments, however, it has to be a concern to have foreign manufactured surveillance equipment if you're in security circles though surely....
 

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Yes I thought that Fender when the Kaspersky allegations 1st appeared. The Governments are worried about AV, but no-one appears to have given a thought to the fact that the security cameras in many top secret installations from government buildings to Area 51, will have been manufactured in all probability by Chinese companies, some of which is state owned. That doesn't mean those companies have done anything wrong of course, their systems could all be secure and independent from foreign Governments, however, it has to be a concern to have foreign manufactured surveillance equipment if you're in security circles though surely....
there are articles published about this issue...in fact hikvision is not permitted in lots of installations
 

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The Governments are worried about AV, but no-one appears to have given a thought to the fact that the security cameras in many top secret installations from government buildings to Area 51
well hopefully they turned off universal plug and play
it will come a day when some one will write a script to destroy all ip cameras which are causing these botnet attacks its only a matter of time
 

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wait, china has access to millions of cameras? please elaborate, my paranoia is tingling, might put an IP block on my NVR for WAN/WLAN if this is what i think it is. if you're referring to that backdoor well thats fixed in my f/w.
 

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wait, china has access to millions of cameras? please elaborate, my paranoia is tingling, might put an IP block on my NVR for WAN/WLAN if this is what i think it is. if you're referring to that backdoor well thats fixed in my f/w.
If you have it setup for remote access, then it should be done correctly by this: VPN Primer for Noobs
 

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Talking hypothetically, if a foreign government wanted to compromise installed cameras (of any brand), what's to stop malicious firmware from streaming out via your pc and software which already have permission out? I'm guessing your Camera software has permission to check for updates, as does your pc, plus it already has permission to stream out for for remote viewing. When the camera has permission to stream to your pc, I can't really see a need for it to open it's own direct port out as an IP device, when it can simply use the pc as an already open route. Surely all it needs to do is modify the camera software with a line or two of malicious code so it can stream not only to the pc or any already approved remote device, but also forward a second stream to an preset internet IP address via the port the software already has permission to use for remote viewing (an alternative to this would be surely to add permission for another device to access the remote viewing with the added device maybe not showing in the interface).

The question here would be the integrity of the firmware surely.
 

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True. The weak point is the software on the PC when using ivms for example. You can isolate the cameras and nvr from internet but the PC side.... hmmmm i only have front yard cams anyway. Backyard is for privacy IMO.
 

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Easiest way to get privacy is hang something over the camera whilst you're in the back garden. If it's a flat soffit above, can always screw some cup hooks or similar in to hang something off and you can buy eyelets and pliers quite cheaply if you want to go the route of proper holes. Just don't forget to take it down afterwards. No amount of hacking can remove a cloth, towel, piece of tarp etc from the front of a camera.

However, unless you're into naturism, might be better to leave the camera live. What if you were attacked in the garden? Turn the camera off or cover it over and it misses everything.
 
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