Dahua NVR5216-4KS2 / NVR5216-16P-4KS2

Crazykiller · Jan 20, 2018

I only use iDMSS, but I think it should be almost the same. Take a look at alarm manager and subscribe an alarm, select your NVR device, then IVS and tripwire and the corresponding channel.

mmdb · Jan 20, 2018

big thx crazykiller ..it worked ..i get video ass soon as i pass tripwire .just 1 question is it possible to get snapshot instead video

Crazykiller · Jan 20, 2018

Yes, if you record snapshot on IVS events it should be theoretically possible. On the top you can select video, snapshot and live view. In the local settings you can change which view is selected by default. For real, snapshots didn’t work for me and others with iDMSS. Don’t know if works with gDMMS.

TechBill · Jan 20, 2018

@EMPIRETECANDY

I think there is a bug with iDMSS IVS alert and snapshot from NVR, can you ask Dahua engineer to check if work or bug?

Video work playback but snapshot says no record on iDMSS alarm notification

Thank you

Crazykiller · Jan 21, 2018

TechBill said:
@EMPIRETECANDY

I think there is a bug with iDMSS IVS alert and snapshot from NVR, can you ask Dahua engineer to check if work or bug?

Video work playback but snapshot says no record on iDMSS alarm notification

Thank you

There are more bugs in iDMSS than this.
In the alarm manager is no possibility to refresh and get the alarm to appear there. They only appear if you tap them in the lock screen / notifications. And then they appear in the order you tapped them and not by time.
Some settings for the image etc in live view are not available while the device is in landscape mode.
And I’m sure there are some others i forgot

ben_r_ · Jan 21, 2018

Considering replacing my Q-See QC8816 with a Dahua NVR5208-16P and wanted to ask how loud this unit is when running? Are there any dB level ratings for it? Would you say you could sleep next to it? Does it vibrate a lot? Etc.

Crazykiller · Jan 21, 2018

If you want the PoE version, you could sleep on another level in your house

I switched from the 5232-16P to the 5224-24P. It has more PoE ports, better airflow, more power budget and is quieter than the 5232-16P

ben_r_ · Jan 21, 2018

Crazykiller said:
If you want the PoE version, you could sleep on another level in your house
I switched from the 5232-16P to the 5224-24P. It has more PoE ports, better airflow, more power budget and is quieter than the 5232-16P

Yea I figured any of these POE NVRs will be noise makers and I certainly dont intend to sleep near it, just wanted to use that for reference. The Q-See it's be replacing is pretty annoying and while I could replace the fans in it which I have read would help, I think Id rather just replace it with an Dahua NVR.

While I dont need anymore than 16 ports is there any real advantages for a home gamer to go with a higher model than the NVR52XX series? From my limited research it kinda seems like this is as high as most around the net go.

Also, does this model come with the rack mount ears? I dont seem them listed anywhere as included.

Crazykiller · Jan 21, 2018

ben_r_ said:
Yea I figured any of these POE NVRs will be noise makers and I certainly dont intend to sleep near it, just wanted to use that for reference. The Q-See it's be replacing is pretty annoying and while I could replace the fans in it which I have read would help, I think Id rather just replace it with an Dahua NVR.

While I dont need anymore than 16 ports is there any real advantages for a home gamer to go with a higher model than the NVR52XX series? From my limited research it kinda seems like this is as high as most around the net go.

Also, does this model come with the rack mount ears? I dont seem them listed anywhere as included.

If you want to rack mount it, get the 5224-24P. Even if you don’t need more than 16 ports you have more power budget. The 5224 is designed to be rack mounted and the airflow goes to the back. The 5216 and 5232 have the air inlet from the side. Less noise is even an advantage of the 5224.
If I will have to much time someday, I’ll do a review or comparison between the 5232 and the 5224.
I don’t think you need more for home as a 52xx. Maybe 54xx if you need a lot of capacity. The 5xxx series is already the pro series which would be quiet enough for home usage.

ben_r_ · Jan 21, 2018

Crazykiller said:
If you want to rack mount it, get the 5224-24P. Even if you don’t need more than 16 ports you have more power budget. The 5224 is designed to be rack mounted and the airflow goes to the back. The 5216 and 5232 have the air inlet from the side. Less noise is even an advantage of the 5224.
If I will have to much time someday, I’ll do a review or comparison between the 5232 and the 5224.
I don’t think you need more for home as a 52xx. Maybe 54xx if you need a lot of capacity. The 5xxx series is already the pro series which would be quiet enough for home usage.

Aw man... It just occurred to me that neither of these Dahua NVRs have an IR input! I need an IR input as I use HDMI over Ethernet adapters that also carry repeated IR signals to two TVs. Without having an IR input I would not be able to control the NVR via an IR remote like I can with my current one. Thats a big deal for me as I have Logitech Harmony remotes at both locations that I use to control the NVR which is in the comm closet.

aristobrat · Jan 22, 2018

If anyone in the US is considering a NVR5216-4KS2, I have one for sale:
WTS - Dahua NVR5216-4KS2

Works great! I'm only selling because BI is a little easier for me to work with in regards to my HA setup.

Fernando Yepiz · Jan 23, 2018

Hello guys, newbie question here:
System is NVR 5416-16P-4KS2 with (6) IPC-HFW4431S cameras. Per the specs both of these have the H.265+ codec but it's nowhere to be found! I only see H.265 and H.264H on the NVR ...
I have the latest firmware on both ...
Help please!

aristobrat · Jan 23, 2018

IIRC, with certain other features enabled, the + protocols aren’t available. Or vice-versa. I think the IVS feature disappears when a + protocol is enabled.

Fernando Yepiz · Jan 24, 2018

Thank you aristobrat.
Do any of you use the + protocols? I've been noticing that the whole system works better with the H.264H enabled over the H.265's ... does that make sense?

nosnoop · Jan 25, 2018

I noticed that in some screenshots for other NVRs, there is a display of bitrates of all the cameras in unused channels like this one at the bottom 4:

I don't seem to be able to find a setting for it in 5216.
So is it possible to do the same in 5216 rather than the Dahua logos?

Tygunn · Jan 25, 2018

I haven't used my Dahua NVR for a while (its a model 5216). Turns out it wasn't recording for a few weeks. It lost all the camera passwords. To top it off it also lost the admin password, so I can't even log into the NVR.
I'm glad I use BlueIris; this NVR is a turd.

tigerwillow1 · Jan 26, 2018

Are you having a problem using the IVS functions from the NVR's web interface? Here's a possible "fix". My 5216-4ks2 is using firmware 3.210.0003.0, Build Date: 2017-04-18 (one version before the very latest, I believe).

On the DVR web interface, go to SETUP/EVENT/HEAT MAP, choose the channel of the problem camera, then press SETUP for the period.

That's it. Just cancel out and see if the IVS setup now works for the camera. I don't think you even need to change anything in the period setup. I didn't click to select the "channel" check box in the heat map setup. I wouldn't want to explain any logic for this. It worked for 3 of my cameras, and the "fix" remained in place after an NVR reboot.

Crazykiller · Jan 28, 2018

nosnoop said:
I noticed that in some screenshots for other NVRs, there is a display of bitrates of all the cameras in unused channels like this one at the bottom 4:

I don't seem to be able to find a setting for it in 5216.
So is it possible to do the same in 5216 rather than the Dahua logos?

It might be a „feature“ of the 32 channel NVR only. Normally you have a view which is close to the amount of the channels. 3x3=9 for a 8 channel NVR, 4x4=16 for a 16 channel NVR, 5x5=25 for a 24 channel NVR. So you have only one black field. With the 32 channel NVR you would have 6x6 fields with 4 blank ones. Maybe Dahua thought it might be to much and added the stream rate for this particular reason.

micoinde · Jan 28, 2018

This appears to be the correct thread for help on this issue.

I've searched this FORUM and have not located the solution for activating IVS via a SMART PLAN on my NVR.

I've created IVS trips lines for each camera through the camera interface and the only active camera is the Dahua Starlight PTZ SD59225U-HNI and on the actual NVR screen, I can see the trip line and intrusion boxes but the remaining 15 cameras, nothing.

I'm running the following equipment:

Dahua DH-NVR5216-4KS2, 8TB Purple HD, Software Version: 3.215.0000.3, build : 2017-12-11 and I believe this is the most recent stable firmware update

11 Dahua Starlight Varifocal Turret (IPC-HDW5231R-Z)
System Version2.622.0000000.18.R, Build Date: 2017-11-10
WEB Version3.2.1.515090
ONVIF Version16.12(V2.4.1.510971)

2 Dahua Starlight Varifocal Turret (IPC-HDW5231R-ZE)
System Version2.622.0000000.18.R, Build Date: 2017-11-10
WEB Version3.2.1.515090
ONVIF Version16.12(V2.4.1.510971)

1 Dahua Starlight PTZ SD59225U-HNI
System Version2.600.0000000.13.R.E4.2512.3S.NR, Build Date: 2017-09-28
WEB Version3.2.1.501276
ONVIF Version16.12(V2.3.1.458331)
PTZ Version3.02.85.RHNT_17_22722

1 Dahua Starlight PTZ SD49225T-HN
Software Version2.422.0000.0.R.4.2510, Build Date: 2016-09-21
WEB Version3.2.1.379855
ONVIF Version2.4.2
PTZ Version3.02.93.RHNZ_170518_22722

1 Dahua Starlight Varifocal Bullet Z5 7-35mm (IPC-HFW5231E-Z5)
Software Version2.460.0000.7.R, Build Date: 2017-03-06
WEB Version3.2.1.427921
ONVIF Version2.42

For my home system, I have updated all of my cameras to Dahua (Starlights) and use Blue Iris. My goal now is to educate myself on the Dahua NVRs and cameras in order to expand my equipment knowledge and business. I installed several systems using Alibi branded Hikvision equipment and have had no issues with line crossing and intrusion detection setup. I know it is something simple on my end but I'm stumped.

Thanks.

jesd03 · Mar 1, 2018

@giomania Hi just wondering if you swapped the fans in NVR with the Noctua fans and what the end result was?

I am thinking of swapping the internal fan and also adding additional outside running at 5v.

Thanks

giomania said:
So to summarize for future reference:

The original fan inside the PSU is a 12 V, 40 mm x 40 mm x 20 mm Delta EFB0412HHD, with 9 CFM air transfer and about 34 dB(A).

You replaced the original Delta fan inside the PSU with a 12 V, 40 mm x 40 mm x 20 mm Scythe SY124020L Mini Kaze Ultra with 4.86 CFM air transfer and about 19.56 dB(A).

Since this replacement fan theoretically cut the PSU airflow in half, you installed the original fan outside the PSU with 5 V power supply, theoretically cutting the airflow from 9 CFM at 12 V to 3.75 CFM at 5 Volts, with an unknown cut to dB(A).

The theoretical combined airflow of this new configuration would be the Scythe fan's 4.86 CFM + the Delta fans's 3.75 CFM, which is 8.61 CFM total when combined. The result is a much quieter unit, with near-identical airflow in the PSU.

For Noctua fans, the 12 V, 40 mm x 40 mm x 20 mm Noctua NFA4x20 FLX with 5.53 CFM and 14.9 dBa at its fastest speed would not be enough airflow as the original Delta fan inside the PSU.

Alternatively, if you used the 12 V, 40 mm x 40 mm x 10 mm Noctua NFA4x10 FLX with 4.82 CFM and 17.9 dBa on the outside of the PSU as you did above, then the HDD's would fit in their original mounting locations.

The combined airflow with using a dual Noctua fan configuration (NFA4x20 FLX inside the PSU / NFA4x10 FLX outside the PSU) would be 10.35 CFM.

The combined airflow with using the original Delta fan inside the PSU at 5 V to slow it down, and the Noctua NFA4x10 FLX fan outside the PSU would be 8.57 CFM.

I had to convert the Noctua cubic feet per hour to CFM, but am pretty sure the numbers are correct. I guess the only wild card here is the effect of turbulence with two fans basically sandwiched together in a push-pull configuration. I know Noctua uses push-pull configurations in their air coolers, but they have cooling fins in between the fans. This is the reason why I asked if you had performed other thermal tests, and I didn't understand why you could not, but I have never used a thermal imaging device, and just need to educate myself. I will Google that now...

Mark

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