Neighbor kids getting caught turning off power

n8huntsman · Jun 20, 2018

They knew it was there but underestimated it. Turned off my power. At first I thought it was a power outage but then I could see my neighbors lights on. Fearing the worst (trying to disable alarm system, which is on battery backup), with family inside, came out glock in hand through a side door cautiously clearing the power panel and circling back around before reviewing the footage. Imagine if I’d have put that green dot on his chest! That would put end to their shenanigans! After reviewing the footage realized it was a kid down the street and told the cops to go scare him a bit. He doesn’t even ride his bike by anymore.

tangent · Jun 20, 2018

brings back memories of my youth. 12/31/99 my sister was having a large new years eve party, lots of hype and hysteria about all the things that could go wrong due to the Y2K bug. I cut the power right at midnight :rofl:

Parley · Jun 20, 2018

Excellent. I see the house that "blew up" is pretty well along on the rebuild.

n8huntsman · Jun 20, 2018

Haha, good eye! Yep it was getting close then. Even closer now.

Mike · Jun 21, 2018

Some nice action from that cam I see, lol. I didn't see the kids actually cut the power, did I miss it or is this after it? Why did they do that? Just to mess with you or did they have other intentions?

Glock 17? 19? 23? Crimson Trace laser?

n8huntsman · Jun 21, 2018

Can’t see him actually throw the switch. I need another camera! He was just being a nuisance. No real reason. He got at least two other houses as well. I did get him on cam doing the house next to the one that burned. Glock 17 w/ crimson trace green laser and truglo sights.

mat200 · Jun 21, 2018

n8huntsman said:
They knew it was there but underestimated it. Turned off my power. At first I thought it was a power outage but then I could see my neighbors lights on. Fearing the worst (trying to disable alarm system, which is on battery backup), with family inside, came out glock in hand through a side door cautiously clearing the power panel and circling back around before reviewing the footage. Imagine if I’d have put that green dot on his chest! That would put end to their shenanigans! After reviewing the footage realized it was a kid down the street and told the cops to go scare him a bit. He doesn’t even ride his bike by anymore.

Thanks @n8huntsman for your posts.

This is a great example of needing cameras which can reach far enough out to potentially ID a suspect, as they clam up their hoodies once they get closer.

Looks like the auto follow is working fairly well in your PTZ.

crw030 · Jun 21, 2018

You must have recognized the local kid? It was pretty pixelated so I thought id might not be possible. Autotrack really locked down on them but I thought it would be more clear, was that optical zoom? Thought it might be Youtube compression (maybe still is but I watched at 1080p), at 48 seconds you get the closest to an actual face shot.

Feeling a little like I won't ever have an ID shot if it is a random perpetrator.

looney2ns · Jun 21, 2018

Is your breaker box outdoors? Around here someone would have to pull the meter to shut off power from outside.

crw030 · Jun 21, 2018

Probably is @looney2ns - I have a similar situation (old address they'd have to pull the meter, but new address distribution box is located on the outside of the house).

I had to padlock the box since it's on the outside of the house and I detected it propped open a couple times (might even have been me leaving it that way). But after seeing all the "safe neighborhood" posts a little vigilance required me to secure it with a padlock.

Mike · Jun 21, 2018

n8huntsman said:
Can’t see him actually throw the switch. I need another camera! He was just being a nuisance. No real reason. He got at least two other houses as well. I did get him on cam doing the house next to the one that burned. Glock 17 w/ crimson trace green laser and truglo sights.

Glad you didn't shoot him!

Aengus4h · Jun 21, 2018

wait till we all have smart meters... once hacked could be a random cut-off lottery

looney2ns · Jun 21, 2018

Aengus4h said:
wait till we all have smart meters... once hacked could be a random cut-off lottery

They installed mine a couple of weeks ago.

Aengus4h · Jun 21, 2018

over here they want to move everyone to them, but its not compulsory - well, till they say they can't maintain yours any more so no choice. I rejected the option as it was a v1 meter, no point until the v2 is ready to be rolled out, too many restrictions on switching power company etc so a good excuse. I did ask if it'd be using my internet connection as I'd not be willing to approve that lol. Pretty pointless things tho IMHO, don't need/want to know how much leccy I've used this last 30 mins/day/whenever and defo not to have critical infrastructure in my house be exposed on the web and outside my control to secure it.

tangent · Jun 21, 2018

I think most smart meters use some form of power line communication, just at a more frequent interval than the old AMR systems. In some cases there may be local hubs that then transmit over cellular or other protocol.

Aengus4h · Jun 21, 2018

tangent said:
I think most smart meters use some form of power line communication, just at a more frequent interval than the old AMR systems. In some cases there may be local hubs that then transmit over cellular or other protocol.

dunno but the issue most have is that they can then remotely disconnect you, which means an admin error or a hack can potentially leave you stuffed.

Add to that lots of reports of wildly inaccurate readings and billing, makes them a POS expensive exercise to achieve very little real benefit.

looney2ns · Jun 21, 2018

tangent said:
I think most smart meters use some form of power line communication, just at a more frequent interval than the old AMR systems. In some cases there may be local hubs that then transmit over cellular or other protocol.

That's the way my "new" one is supposed to work. You don't have a choice, they are replacing all meters in their service area, like it or not. They have installed wireless electronic readers on the gas meters as well. Those are short range communicators, that supposedly some with a handheld has to be within 20ft to read it.
How water meters went that route a couple of years ago.

n8huntsman · Jun 21, 2018

Mine was replaced at least 5 years ago. No more manual meter reading is the real benefit. I will be relocating my side fence so that the meter and panel will now be in the backyard . For now it’s padlocked

SkyLake · Jun 21, 2018

That's one good reason to use a good beefy UPS for the camera / home security system

tangent · Jun 21, 2018

looney2ns said:
That's the way my "new" one is supposed to work. You don't have a choice, they are replacing all meters in their service area, like it or not. They have installed wireless electronic readers on the gas meters as well. Those are short range communicators, that supposedly some with a handheld has to be within 20ft to read it.
How water meters went that route a couple of years ago.

Not too many areas around me use the handheld version anymore. Sometimes you see something that requires them to drive by. Our gas and water meters went wireless 15-20 years ago, same with basic amr on the electric. The gas meters are only read every few months though and the rest of they time the estimate usage, these might be handheld in some areas. Today the water meters are often a mesh network with a neighborhood node that converts to cellular. They aren't that secure either and the water meters can also be shut off remotely.

I know of a couple water districts that still use handheld readers in my area and they actually check your water pressure once or twice a year and notify you if your PRV has failed.

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