Any reseller besides AliExpress for the NVR4416 or NVR4408 w/out POE?

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I'm trying to locate a reseller offering the NVR4416 or NVR4408 w/out POE?

Aliexpress is currently the only place I can find them for $350 shipped.
 

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Link shows $989? That the one you were suggesting? Seems a bit high vs aliexpress.
That nvr, is 32ch and it has 16poe ports so its not something you want anyway...
 

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From what I've learned so far in my limited forum time, is to have a separate Poe from the nvr. Is that what you'd suggest fenderman? My guess is it's a more robust Poe if it's separate.
 

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From what I've learned so far in my limited forum time, is to have a separate Poe from the nvr. Is that what you'd suggest fenderman? My guess is it's a more robust Poe if it's separate.
...the only benefits (that I can think of) of having an integrated poe switch is that its a cleaner look and its plug and play for cameras supported by the NVR...neither of those are meaningful to me...The downsides are that the unit needs additional cooling so the fans will be louder, accessing the cameras internal webserver is more difficult - although there are workarounds...and most importantly (for me) it negates one of the greatest benefits of IP cameras...the ability to use poe switches far down the line and only run a single cable back to the nvr...by using the poe in the NVR you need to homerun everything which is a huge pain in some installs...
Using a managed switch can give you even more control if you want/need it..
 

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All my TV's have HDMI.. we current have Coax to each tv unused and I was going to modulate the signal from the NVR to each of the tv's over coax. Seems very costly at this point to distribute HDMI to each tv from central wiring structure in our house.

Curious how others do this.
 

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Not many want to do this. What you can do is used small android computers that look like an USB thumb drive. They plug into HDMI port and get power from USB if the camera has it. They use WiFi to connect and costs about $40-50. Then you can load an android app that displays cameras. The advantage is the people watching that TV won't see what is being viewed at another. Meaning each TV, someone with a mouse can change display layouts.
 

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If you have network connections at the tv you should use a hard wired android pc or amazons fire tv...if you have a spare network cable that runs from the NVR location to the tv then you can use it to transmit hdmi over ethernet...
 

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I have a spare network cable & coax cable at each TV location all going back to my central wiring panel. NVR + POE Switch is located next to central panel.

I thought it was very costly to run HDMI over cat5e. I was thinking for now I could send BNC out on NVR through my modulator to all tv's tuning into channel to see the cams. Not sure how bad the 480i will look on the TV's.
 

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I have a spare network cable & coax cable at each TV location all going back to my central wiring panel. NVR + POE Switch is located next to central panel.

I thought it was very costly to run HDMI over cat5e. I was thinking for now I could send BNC out on NVR through my modulator to all tv's tuning into channel to see the cams. Not sure how bad the 480i will look on the TV's.
It depends on what you mean by costly...i used this Amazon.com: Tripp Lite 4-Port HDMI over Cat5 / Cat6 Extender Splitter, Transmitter for Video and Audio, 1920x1200 1080p at 60Hz(B126-004): Electronics
with these passive adapters Amazon.com: Tripp Lite HDMI Over Cat5 / Cat6 Extender, Receiver for Video and Audio 1920x1200 1080p at 60Hz(B126-1P0): Electronics
There are other cheaper alternatives depending on how many tv's you want to get signal to.
The key when using hdmi over ethernet is to avoid any signal attenuation, so that means for long runs at the edge if the limits, no using any patch panels or wallplates...just a plug at each end of the cable..
 
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That is an awesome solution to distribute the NVR signal over HDMI to each TV. Guess I don't really need the NVR4416 just for the TV output feature that doesn't exist on many other NVR's with Dahua.
Now to rethink which NVR would be best suited not needing TV output and investing in your simple HDMI solution.
 

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Not many want to do this. What you can do is used small android computers that look like an USB thumb drive. They plug into HDMI port and get power from USB if the camera has it. They use WiFi to connect and costs about $40-50. Then you can load an android app that displays cameras. The advantage is the people watching that TV won't see what is being viewed at another. Meaning each TV, someone with a mouse can change display layouts.
Just set up an Android MK808B dongle on a bedroom tv. Used the included power supply so it's always on. So far it seems to work well with a Dahua NVR using gDmss HD Lite app. Just select the HDMI input or hit Picture-in-Picture and I can see all of the cameras.
 

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That is an awesome solution to distribute the NVR signal over HDMI to each TV. Guess I don't really need the NVR4416 just for the TV output feature that doesn't exist on many other NVR's with Dahua.
Now to rethink which NVR would be best suited not needing TV output and investing in your simple HDMI solution.
The downside of this solution is that it requires a dedicated ethernet cable directly run to each device and as NCC pointed out, each tv will display the same exact image...with an android device you can customize the display...since you have a dedicated run, its a great option..
The upside is that its super stable, no app crashing/freezing issues...it just works...i installed this for a relative and we used 10 inch led screens mounted inside a wood frames....we ran two ethernet cables to each location used one with passive poe power and the other for the hdmi...been running like a champ for months trouble free...
 

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Even more options... HDMI convertor or Android MK808B. All my TV locations have a spare CAT5e cable so just need to decide what is best long term.
 
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