New Ring door peephole camera

Adamsdaddy · Jan 8, 2019

Replace Your Old Peephole With the New Door View Cam
Clever idea to use the peephole and that should provide a good view of who’s at the door. It is battery operated so you gotta wonder just how many motion alerts it would take to kill the battery. I have a rather busy street in front of my house with school drop offs so I bet this would be dead in a week.
It would however give me a better view of who’s coming to the door vs the doorbell which is off to the side.
At $200, that’s a bit too much of a gamble.

crw030 · Jan 8, 2019

All the peephole and most the doorbell cameras seem to have some combination of wi-fi network and/or battery powered. For doors I get the challenges (hinges/gaps to navigate, exterior doors may be solid core and just fit & finish requirements), but or doorbells which are usually in a wall and have wires running to them (ok yeah, two I guess) you'd think they would have something better.

Somewhere @fenderman recommended an AXIS $800 doorbell camera, which is probably super awesome but also waaay outside my price range. I can't even imagine having that conversation with the wife, "Honey besides $70 locks, I'd like to put an $800 doorbell camera on the front door...."

Mike · Jan 9, 2019

It's not for me...Or probably most of us here, but it's a great idea. They are cornering the market of people who just want easy solutions and don't mind cloud service.

tangent · Jan 9, 2019

crw030 said:
"Honey besides $70 locks, I'd like to put an $800 doorbell camera on the front door...."

Good locks can cost way more than $70. For a house that costs hundreds of thousands of dollars, why to people balk at spending more than $50 on a lock that's actually hard to pick with a paperclip or that actually resists a bump key?

tangent · Jan 9, 2019

crw030 said:
Somewhere @fenderman recommended an AXIS $800 doorbell camera, which is probably super awesome but also waaay outside my price range.

I think the real point is that doorbell cameras generally suck and are overpriced.
It's cloud crap, but the Ring Video Doorbell Elite partially recesses in a 1 gang junction box and has PoE and it's a 'bargain' comparatively at $500.

The general trend in smart home tech and even computer operating systems is finding new ways to sell data about the customers to make money. I sometimes wonder if there was a meeting at Microsoft where they debated removing every feature from Windows 10 that isn't tied to ad revenue. Pretty soon they're going to start putting ads on everything you print and in the fucking calculator. They're already planning on killing MS Paint to replace it with an ad supported version. The cloud based smart home tech is all about selling subscriptions or selling data about you to advertisers.

Camit · Jan 9, 2019

tangent said:
Good locks can cost way more than $70. For a house that costs hundreds of thousands of dollars, why to people balk at spending more than $50 on a lock that's actually hard to pick with a paperclip or that actually resists a bump key?

Your door locks really make no difference,you could spend $200.00 on a nice lock then when someone wants to break in they can just go around back and break the window. Any good grade deadbolt with 3 inch screws should work fine anymore then that it’s a waste.

tangent · Jan 9, 2019

Camit said:
Your door locks really make no difference,you could spend $200.00 on a nice lock then when someone wants to break in they can just go around back and break the window. Any good grade deadbolt with 3 inch screws should work fine anymore then that it’s a waste.

Just because there are other ways to get in, it doesn't mean your locks should be crap. That doesn't mean you need to spend a crazy amount, heck there are even things you can do to modify a cheap kwikset lock to make it much more secure. Locks are only part of the puzzle.

tangent · Jan 9, 2019

Adamsdaddy said:
Replace Your Old Peephole With the New Door View Cam
Clever idea to use the peephole and that should provide a good view of who’s at the door. It is battery operated so you gotta wonder just how many motion alerts it would take to kill the battery. I have a rather busy street in front of my house with school drop offs so I bet this would be dead in a week.
It would however give me a better view of who’s coming to the door vs the doorbell which is off to the side.
At $200, that’s a bit too much of a gamble.

Back on topic...
It's a decent option for apartment dwellers, but I'd be a little skeptical on wifi performance with a metal door.

hikwpg · Jan 9, 2019

tangent said:
Back on topic...
It's a decent option for apartment dwellers, but I'd be a little skeptical on wifi performance with a metal door.

The wifi component is on the inside.

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fenderman · Jan 9, 2019

Camit said:
Your door locks really make no difference,you could spend $200.00 on a nice lock then when someone wants to break in they can just go around back and break the window. Any good grade deadbolt with 3 inch screws should work fine anymore then that it’s a waste.

Breaking a window generates noise and climbing through it will cut you if you rush. There is a reason bumping caught on. Also dont forget the folks in the hood, who have bars on the windows.

fenderman · Jan 9, 2019

Adamsdaddy said:
Clever idea to use the peephole and that should provide a good view of who’s at the door.

For the record it wasnt their idea. Pretty sure nothing came of these guys but..

tangent · Jan 10, 2019

This company has also been around for a long time: Brinno | PeepHole Viewer - PHV1325

fenderman · Jan 10, 2019

tangent said:
This company has also been around for a long time: Brinno | PeepHole Viewer - PHV1325

Interesting. Though to be fair that is just a viewer. One nice thing about the ring is that it has an optical view so that you dont have to blindly open the door if the batteries are dead.

tangent · Jan 10, 2019

fenderman said:
Interesting. Though to be fair that is just a viewer. One nice thing about the ring is that it has an optical view so that you dont have to blindly open the door if the batteries are dead.

iirc it records snapshots to an sd card when someone knocks or if the motion sensor add-on is triggered.
In 2007, I was a little interested in Brinno but never bought or used one.

fenderman · Jan 10, 2019

tangent said:
iirc it records snapshots to an sd card when someone knocks or if the motion sensor add-on is triggered.
In 2007, I was a little interested in Brinno but never bought or used one.

That is impressive for 2007!

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