how to mount without screws?

tung256 · May 13, 2019

how can i mount securely without using screws? is there an epoxy i can use to last at least 6 years?

This wall feels like tile or porcelain, if i screw in, what bits should I use? I only need to drill in maybe 1.5 inches deep to mount the camera's wall bracket.

the dome camera along with the wall bracket such as this will weigh about 2.5 lbs. https://www.amazon.com/PC110-DS-1272ZJ-110-Bracket-Hikvision-DS-2CD2142FWD-I/dp/B01C7RAIWI/

master_tinkerer · May 13, 2019

Those dots look like holes. I'd epoxy or expansion fit a stainless nut into one of those holes( glue with the bolt in the nut so as to not plug the threads.) Then screw a aluminum plate that is the same size as your mount and with appropriate hardware , you can fasten your camera mount to the plate. Conduit down the wall for your wires? If you drill, they sell diamond tipped drill bits so you won't crack your tile/material. drill slow and with water for coolant.

bp2008 · May 13, 2019

If you want to surface mount without damaging the exterior of the wall at all, I'd suggest mounting the camera to a junction box and covering the back of the junction box with 3M command strips. http://amzn.com/B00SH2CG3C

It should be more than strong enough unless someone tries to forcibly remove the camera. Longevity not guaranteed of course, as these are adhesive strips and will be subject to hot, cold, water, etc, being outdoors.

tung256 · May 14, 2019

master_tinkerer said:
Those dots look like holes. I'd epoxy or expansion fit a stainless nut into one of those holes( glue with the bolt in the nut so as to not plug the threads.) Then screw a aluminum plate that is the same size as your mount and with appropriate hardware , you can fasten your camera mount to the plate. Conduit down the wall for your wires? If you drill, they sell diamond tipped drill bits so you won't crack your tile/material. drill slow and with water for coolant.

upon closer inspection, i think i will just drill a 1.5 inches deep hole to insert plastic anchors in between the tile's grout. will use your suggestion of diamond tip bits to drill the tile if needed for the anchors to be squeezed into. that would be much much more secure than epoxy.
the black holes you saw are actually part of the decor.

samplenhold · May 14, 2019

These look like slate tiles. Tapcon makes screws that might work for this sort of thing. I have used them in brick and concrete slab. They also sell the proper sized drill bit for the screws. I usually use a hammer drill, going slow.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Tapcon-8-Pack-1-1-4-in-x-1-4-in-Concrete-Anchors/3142967

The only thing I would be worried about is chipping the slate. Maybe contacting Tapcon directly they could let you know their recommendation.

J Sigmo · May 14, 2019

If the material is hard, like actual concrete or concrete block, the Tapcon screws work very well. In softer material, like cinder block, they tend to strip the hole before you can get them fully driven. I've used an undersized bit in cinder block, and if I was very careful, I could get some of them to "take" to some extent.

Hopefully those architectural blocks are solid and tough, not soft on their interiors. I'm curious as to what those really are.

tung256 · May 14, 2019

samplenhold said:
These look like slate tiles. Tapcon makes screws that might work for this sort of thing. I have used them in brick and concrete slab. They also sell the proper sized drill bit for the screws. I usually use a hammer drill, going slow.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Tapcon-8-Pack-1-1-4-in-x-1-4-in-Concrete-Anchors/3142967

The only thing I would be worried about is chipping the slate. Maybe contacting Tapcon directly they could let you know their recommendation.

i've tried these Tapcon before. the screws can only be drilled into the hole once right? meaning you cannot unwind, adjust the mountings, then drill the blue screw in the 2nd time.

J Sigmo · May 14, 2019

tung256 said:
i've tried these Tapcon before. the screws can only be drilled into the hole once right? meaning you cannot unwind, adjust the mountings, then drill the blue screw in the 2nd time.

I wouldn't want to use any given Tapcon screw more than once. If the material you're screwing to is hard, like good concrete, you can take the Tapcon out, then put another one back in its place.

I don't consider the screws re-usable.

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