Hikvision nvr and ptz schedual question possibly moving from blue iris

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Ok I'm thinking of moving from blue iris to a hikvision nvr. I'm familiar with blue iris but have no experience with a hickvision nvr. I have 4 ptz's I want them all to move to spacific preset via an alarm input on the nvr. I would think every nvr would have this capability. Just dont want to spend the $$$ to find out.

Reason for the possible move. Power usage on my blue iris server.

These ptz are internal on the house. I want them to physically move to a preset when home and a different one when away. So theres no possible way to record footage when I'm home. Cant see anything besides a wall.

Thanks for any info.
 
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Is there a big difference in the power usage of BI v a NVR? I've read that there isn't much of a difference. Also the functionality of BI is supposed to be far superior to any NVR. Just curious about why you're changing before I go ahead with picking one of the options.
 

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You can make a low power BI machine that would be fine in most cases. I just happen to be on a very strict power circuit. I'm weighing every option. I'll probably end up upgrading my BI box in the end but want to know the capability of the nvr box.
 

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Ok I'm thinking of moving from blue iris to a hikvision nvr. I'm familiar with blue iris but have no experience with a hickvision nvr. I have 4 ptz's I want them all to move to spacific preset via an alarm input on the nvr. I would think every nvr would have this capability. Just dont want to spend the $$$ to find out.

Reason for the possible move. Power usage on my blue iris server.

These ptz are internal on the house. I want them to physically move to a preset when home and a different one when away. So theres no possible way to record footage when I'm home. Cant see anything besides a wall.

Thanks for any info.
For the record a modern pc draws about 8-20w at idle and about 40w for a typical blue iris load vs around 10 for the NVR. You dont need any special "low power" machine. It would take you years to make your money back. I encourage you to buy the hikvision NVR, it will make you appreciate blue iris much more.
 

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I do agree blue iris is my go to. I run 2 servers with blue iris for I dont even know how long. I was just looking at different options and wondering capabilities. It wasn't about making my $$$ back. It was about the circuit the machine has to run on. Think rural.
 

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I do agree blue iris is my go to. I run 2 servers with blue iris for I dont even know how long. I was just looking at different options and wondering capabilities. It wasn't about making my $$$ back. It was about the circuit the machine has to run on. Think rural.
a 30w difference should not matter unless you are running solar power
 

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I think @fenderman is spot on with his analysis of things,
He usually is and hes a respected member and well worth taking his advice and listening to him.

He always looks out for the guys on here and says how it is.

All I can add is I run a hikvision NVR and when I first started I had 3 hikvision cameras.
My basic needs were 24/7 recording and something simple to do this with and also a simple viewing station.

It was the all in one solution and fit the bill

For the record the NVR is DS-7632N-E2 (Chinese model but with abundance of maps allowance).

It still works perfectly and I run 9 cameras now.

Herein lies where I now wish I run BI.

I now have a mix of hikvision and dahua cameras. Whilst the nvr will record 24/7 and do what is needed.

I'm now delving more into automation and using the cameras advanced features.

This is where BI is apart from an NVR
It becomes more apparent when you mix brand cameras as you can only use the other brands as onvif. So only have basic functionality.

I live in the UK and electricity cost a lot and that was one of my initial concerns running costs. And also the outlay on the equipment.
For example a used business class multiplex i7 7th gen cost upwards form £650 GBP. not cheap.

If I were to do it all again i would 100% seriously look into the BI route.

I'm looking at it at the moment when i update all my networking routes and move to a central data centre
 

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I'm with @fenderman on this.

I initially went nvr as I only had the intention at the time of running hikvision cameras and was also cost thinking at the time.

Had I had the fortune of hindsight of what my system would ultimately turn into now I would have probably spent the extra outlay and run BI.

I would be interested @fenderman if you could reccomend some decent BI equipment that's reasonably priced in the UK as opposed to the US (model number and such) as I'm seriously looking into the BI idea at the moment.

I have no rush as the NVR is still doing its job. But currently with 9 external cameras and 2 internal cameras and a mix of dahua and hikvision I feel I'm currently starting to limit myself in the feature set department.

Sure I can record everything 24/7 which is what I still intend to do but I'd also like to start delving a bit further into the cameras intelligence features and even the advanced features of BI
 
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See the links above. Just like in the US, deals come and go, so you just need to spend a few weeks checking ebay frequently. Also your local site or apps like craigslist can be helpful...a user here recently scored an i5-8400 system for 150. Granted it was a pavillion home system with windows home, but still a killer deal.
I would look for an hp elitedesk/prodesk system.
That's what I've been looking at.
As I say I'm in no rush and just hoping to steal a bargain at some point.

Over here there seems to be a lot of second gen i7 going st ridiculous process.

I also been looking st the optiplex systems
 

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That's what I've been looking at.
As I say I'm in no rush and just hoping to steal a bargain at some point.

Over here there seems to be a lot of second gen i7 going st ridiculous process.

I also been looking st the optiplex systems
Dont get the second gen. Look for something newer. Those systems are already 8 years old. Some second gen systems - I believe the i5 and lower cannot support hardware acceleration for any cam over 1080p. 6th gen and above will have the capability to hardware decode h.265 if the developer actually provides for it at some point.
 

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Dont get the second gen. Look for something newer. Those systems are already 8 years old. Some second gen systems - I believe the i5 and lower cannot support hardware acceleration for any cam over 1080p. 6th gen and above will have the capability to hardware decode h.265 if the developer actually provides for it at some point.
Yes I had seen this in the cliff notes seems silly to pay so much for a system that is "old" in tech terms
 

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Yes I had seen this in the cliff notes seems silly to pay so much for a system that is "old" in tech terms
as the 9th gen intels flood the market the 8th gen will get cheaper. Remember 8th gen i5-8500 is more powerful than 7th gen i7-7700.
 

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That is a good system if you only need one internal 3.5 drive. The hp sff is larger and allows for 2x3.5 drives in addition to a 2.5 and 2 m.2 slots for ssd's.
Thanks pal that's good to know.

Actually need 2 3.5 hdds so might have to pass it up
 

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Well I finally decided. I got a system with an i5 6500T and 8gb of ram. It runs great so far with blue iris 5. Usually right at 20 or so watts and 23% CPU. That's (9)1080 cameras. My old 4000t something was near 60 watts and 43 to 100 percent on the cpu.
 

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Well I finally decided. I got a system with an i5 6500T and 8gb of ram. It runs great so far with blue iris 5. Usually right at 20 or so watts and 23% CPU. That's (9)1080 cameras. My old 4000t something was near 60 watts and 43 to 100 percent on the cpu.
Note that a standard i5 6500 to be just as efficient, cheaper, and more importantly would have room for a standard 3.5 drive.
 
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