looney2ns
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Banned Chinese Security Cameras Are Almost Impossible to Remove
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tigerwillow1
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I wonder if this could create an opportunity for us lowlings to get some used expensive cameras for peanuts?
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Surely the answer is just take them all out and replace them with known safe cameras.
These reports always mention cameras. I hope those in power are also checking recorders such as NVR's and software based recorders. Would be a bit of a joke if they swapped the cameras only to have the NV port forward the footage to China.
These reports always mention cameras. I hope those in power are also checking recorders such as NVR's and software based recorders. Would be a bit of a joke if they swapped the cameras only to have the NV port forward the footage to China.
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Why would that be?
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Right, they should be checking and securing all of them to begin with. But as a first pass it's relatively easy to scan and capture MAC addresses on the network and do an automated vendor match:
MAC Address/OUI - Vendor {Company}
64: DB:8B - Hangzhou Hikvision Digital Technology Co.,Ltd.
MAC Address/OUI - Vendor {Company}
3C:EF:8C - Zhejiang Dahua Technology Co., Ltd.
If they're not up to doing that even at the smallest of facilities then I don't know what to say.
tigerwillow1
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Government surplus sale.
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Why would they sell something they are 'banning'?
I am just curious how this works or why they would try to sell for such a small return and open themselves up to scrutiny of allowing others to be subjected to "backdoor" or whatever they are claiming with these cams?
rocky500
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What about the regular Installers (non govt). Should they now inform all their customers that they could "be subjected to "backdoor" before they do a install?
Me personally will buy Dahua cameras. If there is a backdoor, I am happy for anyone else to watch my house too.
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I don't think a backdoor would be to watch your house though from what I have learned here on IPCT.
It seems like selling it to the public isn't something they would be against seeing the laws are vague from the article.
I have and bought Dahua and enjoy them. Coming from Amazon junk cams it is an amazing upgrade and happy we have access to these cams.
EMPIRETECANDY
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Do not put too many cams for important/too private places at indoor places, not expose your camera system to the network, then can be no big problem. I am selling camera and only have a IPC-A46 for living room for indoor.
But Chinese house totally different than US ones.
But Chinese house totally different than US ones.EMPIRETECANDY
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Yes, you are telling a truth, the network is designed by human being, so some smart guys control the world now.
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With indoor cameras you could also do what i do with my web cam when it's not in use, cover it!Do not put too many cams for important/too private places at indoor places, not expose your camera system to the network, then can be no big problem. I am selling camera and only have a IPC-A46 for living room for indoor.
Interestingly i thought i had blocked all WAN access of my cameras both in and out within the router but I have just found any P2P goes straight though no problem. I have informed the manufacturer of the router and they are looking into it and were unaware of this.
tigerwillow1
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I'm not thinking of what's right or wrong, or what the government should or shouldn't do. That will be decided by bureaucrats and bean counters. I'm just wondering if the removed cameras were to be sold as surplus equipment, if they would pop up as great deals on high end cameras? For this to happen, somebody would have to buy a large quantity at a government surplus auction, then resell in small quantities.
alastairstevenson
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What configuration settings did you use to block WAN access?
alastairstevenson
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It sounds like you maybe didn't.
What configuration settings did you use?
A screenshot can tell a story pretty well.
