Hikvision's new 4MP 2-series

klasipca · Jul 15, 2015

bp2008 said:
Search for Hikvision DS-2CD2542FWD-IWS

The model number is a little different than you have it.

I doubt you actually tried it... The search at Ali doesn't work well, for new items at least.

Anyway, I found it via google search Here it is in case anyone interested: http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/DS-2CD2542FWD-IS-English-version-Hikvision-4MP-WDR-mini-dome-ip-camera-audio-alarm-10m-IR/1187561_32362872728.html

ajason · Jul 15, 2015

I'm also interested in the 4MP cameras. I just ordered a DS-2CD2042WD-I 4MP bullet type camera via AliExpress for $150 incl shipping. Problem is they can't ship it for 20 days. The delay is excessive but this dealer seems to be the only one offering this non-dome model right now.
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/free-shipping-with-DHL-shipping-hikvision-english-version-DS-2CD2042WD-I-4MP-IR-Bullet-Network-Camera/32372900699.html

I'll post a report here when I get it.

fenderman · Jul 15, 2015

@ajason, the turret model with the separate IR is superior to the bullet in every way...I would not even consider the bullet.
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/free-shipping-Hikvision-camera-english-version-of-DS-2CD2342WD-I-4MP-WDR-EXIR-Turret-Network-Camera/1152139_32370901867.html

Razer · Jul 15, 2015

I still almost always use the bullets too - The domes are harder to hang the way I need to and generally faster and easier to mount and aim for my guys. I use the turret domes indoors and I like the turret domes where I really need good IR. As it is now I find the Hiks work well enough outdoors in my specific lighting scenarios that I now disable IR on all of the cameras when they are installed. I can still run at 1/30th just fine and I'll not attract spiders!

Now if only my analogs had no IR or IR I could disable lol!

nzipcamera · Jul 15, 2015

FYI, Looks like Dahura have released a new range of 4MP IP cameras to compete against Hikvision.

The Dahua IPC-HDBW4421R-AS seems to have very similar specs to the Hikvision DS-2CD2142FWD-I(W)(S). Good price to. Hikvision will have to sharpen their pencil.

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Dahua-4Mp-IPC-HDBW4421R-AS-IP-camera-network-camera-DH-IPC-HDBW4421R-AS-Support-POE-Micro/638300_32396199848.html

fenderman · Jul 15, 2015

@nzipcamera Nice find. That is really cheap for 4mp, sd card, audio in/out..anyone know if that camera is 3 axis?
Just found this one too
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Dahua-IPC-HDW4421C-IR-IP-Camera-4MP-Full-HD-Network-IR-security-cctv-Dome-Camera-Support/638300_32397210988.html
No sd card or audio though..but crazy price for 4mp turret.

nzipcamera · Jul 15, 2015

Yep and they have a equivalent to your favourite [FONT=&amp]Hikvison Turret. Good price again.

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Dahua-IPC-HDW4421C-IR-IP-Camera-4MP-Full-HD-Network-IR-security-cctv-Dome-Camera-Support/638300_32397210988.html
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fenderman · Jul 15, 2015

Lol, yeah, i edited my post before i saw yours...its a killer deal...

bp2008 · Jul 15, 2015

The Dahua cams are more like 3.7 MP. But if they do as well as (or better than) the Hikvisions at low light and WDR then nobody is likely to care.

ajason · Jul 15, 2015

fenderman said:
@ajason, the turret model with the separate IR is superior to the bullet in every way...I would not even consider the bullet.
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/free-shipping-Hikvision-camera-english-version-of-DS-2CD2342WD-I-4MP-WDR-EXIR-Turret-Network-Camera/1152139_32370901867.html

Well, I tried to order one of these 4MP turret cameras but the link you provided shows "item no longer available." I found another aliexpress dealer that offered one. But after I made my order, they contacted me saying "All 4MP products are out of stock now" -- and that it would take at least three weeks to get one ready for shipping. (Note: this is a different dealer than the one I had ordered the 4MP bullet camera from.)

So, it appears that the 4MP cameras are in high demand and/or short supply.

NiToNi · Jul 17, 2015

ajason said:
Well, I tried to order one of these 4MP turret cameras but the link you provided shows "item no longer available." I found another aliexpress dealer that offered one. But after I made my order, they contacted me saying "All 4MP products are out of stock now" -- and that it would take at least three weeks to get one ready for shipping. (Note: this is a different dealer than the one I had ordered the 4MP bullet camera from.)

So, it appears that the 4MP cameras are in high demand and/or short supply.

I ordered this yesterday: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/DS-2CD2542FWD-IS-English-version-Hikvision-4MP-WDR-mini-dome-ip-camera-audio-alarm-10m-IR/32362872728.html

Realised I had made a mistake ordering the "IS" suffix version instead of the "ISW" version that has WiFi, so I contacted them and upgraded without probs for $14. However they alerted me that the WiFi version would be out of stock till Aug 5 and asked whether I was OK with that before amending my order (which I was), so you're right that they seem to be in high demand and/or short supply.

The turret is available here: http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/DS-2CD2342WD-I-English-version-Hikvision-WDR-EXIR-cctv-security-camera-4MP-30m-IR-Backlight-Compensation/1187561_32357341218.html and I think I will be getting one of those too. That new Dahua equivalent is cheap for sure but it seems to be 2-axis only and given that at least previously their products have been inferior to Hikvision's, especially in low-light conditions, perhaps a 2332 is still a better buy even at 3MP...?

fenderman · Jul 17, 2015

NiToNi said:
I ordered this yesterday: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/DS-2CD2542FWD-IS-English-version-Hikvision-4MP-WDR-mini-dome-ip-camera-audio-alarm-10m-IR/32362872728.html

Realised I had made a mistake ordering the "IS" suffix version instead of the "ISW" version that has WiFi, so I contacted them and upgraded without probs for $14. However they alerted me that the WiFi version would be out of stock till Aug 5 and asked whether I was OK with that before amending my order (which I was), so you're right that they seem to be in high demand and/or short supply.

The turret is available here: http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/DS-2CD2342WD-I-English-version-Hikvision-WDR-EXIR-cctv-security-camera-4MP-30m-IR-Backlight-Compensation/1187561_32357341218.html and I think I will be getting one of those too. That new Dahua equivalent is cheap for sure but it seems to be 2-axis only and given that at least previously their products have been inferior to Hikvision's, especially in low-light conditions, perhaps a 2332 is still a better buy even at 3MP...?

The dahua turret design should be 3 axis despite the description...its a bad copy paste job...they have the same error with the eyeball camera...for low light, if the specs are accurate, the dahua will be far better than the 3mp 2332..

aster1x · Jul 17, 2015

fenderman said:
...they have the same error with the eyeball camera...for low light, if the specs are accurate, the dahua will be far better than the 3mp 2332..

What do you mean about the error?
Since there is an error, how come the dahua is better than the HIK 2332?

fenderman · Jul 17, 2015

aster1x said:
What do you mean about the error?
Since there is an error, how come the dahua is better than the HIK 2332?

I mean when they indicated only two axis of rotation.. A turret and eyeball rotate on three axis by design.. The lux rating is much better on the dahua...

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john_es · Jul 17, 2015

I know that no one has a crystal ball, but what's the chance of the DS-2CD2342WD-I appearing on Amazon in the next couple months? Just trying to figure out if I should wait or bite the bullet on the turret (pun very much intended) now from aliexpress.

ruppmeister · Jul 17, 2015

john_es said:
I know that no one has a crystal ball, but what's the chance of the DS-2CD2342WD-I appearing on Amazon in the next couple months? Just trying to figure out if I should wait or bite the bullet on the turret (pun very much intended) now from aliexpress.

Either way it is most likely to come from a chinese vendor and in some cases shipping times will be the same. If you are ready to buy now I wouldn't wait. Get what you want and enjoy it

LittleBrother · Jul 17, 2015

john_es said:
I know that no one has a crystal ball, but what's the chance of the DS-2CD2342WD-I appearing on Amazon in the next couple months? Just trying to figure out if I should wait or bite the bullet on the turret (pun very much intended) now from aliexpress.

Very high, but let's be clear it is unlikely to be "sold by" amazon, but rather a third party, which means either it's US based and they charge a huge premium for that, or it's Chinese based in which case really what's the point (although Amazon will brow beat a seller if they don't respond to return requests quickly).

If you must have it now I'd either aliexpress or ebay, as ebay also has strong buyer protection.

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Those Dahua are incredibly cheap!

ruppmeister · Jul 17, 2015

LittleBrother said:
Those Dahua are incredibly cheap!

I know - I really want one, just don't need it right now

NiToNi · Jul 17, 2015

fenderman said:
The dahua turret design should be 3 axis despite the description...its a bad copy paste job...they have the same error with the eyeball camera...for low light, if the specs are accurate, the dahua will be far better than the 3mp 2332..

Do you happen to know if the Dahua turrent can be run in corridor mode, i.e. 1440 x 2560[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-senif, SimSun, 宋体]?[/FONT]

bp2008 · Jul 20, 2015

My dad and I each have one of the Dahua 4Mp IPC-HDBW4421R-AS ordered, 2.8mm lens on both. I will post snapshots when they arrive.

Edit: Actually his is the one without audio. IPC-HDBW4421R

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