Pandemic threat? Anyone else concerned?

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Ok shit just got real.
Anyone familiar with online ammo purchasing knows these guys are one of the big ones and ship millions of rounds per week. I never thought I'd see this when I went to grab some more regular range ammo..

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You really should get into reloading if you shoot a lot. Not only is it cheaper, but you can make far superior/accurate ammo than most store bought, and powders/primers/etc are usually immune to the panic buying, although there was also a shortage during the aftermath of the 2012 Newtown shooting.

It's not terribly time consuming, either.
 

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Why exactly won’t this just start to spread around again (say in China, or anywhere that gets over the hump) now that everyone is (basically) back to normal life?
Can anyone take a shot at explaining this? Once normal life resumes the virus is still out there and theoretically should just start to spread again at a rapid rate. What am I missing?
 

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You really should get into reloading if you shoot a lot. Not only is it cheaper, but you can make far superior/accurate ammo than most store bought, and powders/primers/etc are usually immune to the panic buying, although there was also a shortage during the aftermath of the 2012 Newtown shooting.

It's not terribly time consuming, either.

I hear ya, but typically with 9mm Lawman I can get 1000 rounds shipped for $200. So $.20 p/round and Never had one not go bang.. Hard to save a lot reloading at what $.15-.16 p/round? Just not worth the time for me,

I dont shoot as much as I used to but a few years back competing in IDPA and training classes I would go through 1500 rounds p/mo.. Now probably 500-750 to p/mo be honest.
 

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Can anyone take a shot at explaining this? Once normal life resumes the virus is still out there and theoretically should just start to spread again at a rapid rate. What am I missing?
If you haven’t already read any, one of the “flatten the curve” articles might help explain it.
 

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Can anyone take a shot at explaining this? Once normal life resumes the virus is still out there and theoretically should just start to spread again at a rapid rate. What am I missing?


By that time, a growing fraction of the population has had the disease and some "herd immunity" is present. That slows the spread for later waves compared to that which happens in a population that is totally naive. We are not wiping out the virus. People still get it eventually, but the rate is slowed to something our systems can handle. Sorry, there will still be excess deaths compared to the virus not existing, but we don't have that option.

Slowing down the first wave still means a signficant fraction of the population gets infected and gains some immunity. It's not whether the wood gets burned, it's whether it all goes up in an uncontrolled blaze vs a steadier controlled burn.
 

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Twitter has a lot of guys spreading rumors on China, they said Chinese are too hungry and eat bat, god damn we never eat it . Right now the focus is to protect yourself and your family.
There will be 0% infection if you wear a mask when go to busy places and not touch your eyes, mouth, nose, wash your hands. Maybe some westen people think the mask only for sick people, but that is the best way that we can do to anti the virus.
What about eating baby godzillas? :lmao:

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US infection data will have some big increasing later this week, if the communities are contorlled well, the data will drop next week. Can refer to Korea and Japan.
 

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Batman can finally sleep better nights. Think of it this way, he's omnipresent now. He got everybody's attention good :lol:
 

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Can anyone take a shot at explaining this? Once normal life resumes the virus is still out there and theoretically should just start to spread again at a rapid rate. What am I missing?


By that time, a growing fraction of the population has had the disease and some "herd immunity" is present. That slows the spread for later waves compared to that which happens in a population that is totally naive. We are not wiping out the virus. People still get it eventually, but the rate is slowed to something our systems can handle. Sorry, there will still be excess deaths compared to the virus not existing, but we don't have that option.

Slowing down the first wave still means a signficant fraction of the population gets infected and gains some immunity. It's not whether the wood gets burned, it's whether it all goes up in an uncontrolled blaze vs a steadier controlled burn.
That doesn’t really make any sense tho, at least not to me.

First there is no proof acquiring the virus provides any immunity going forward, at least that I’ve seen. And even if it did, China had what 80k people get infected out of 1.4 billion. So say they have some type of immunity, that doesn’t magically transfer to the other 1.3x billion people somehow does it.

So shouldn’t it continue to spread to everyone else at the same pace it did in the beginning assuming no outside forces have changed its path? (Vaccines, weather etc)
 

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That doesn’t really make any sense tho, at least not to me.

First there is no proof acquiring the virus provides any immunity going forward, at least that I’ve seen. And even if it did, China had what 80k people get infected out of
The SARS in 2003, it disappeared at the summer, right now no vaccine, no medicine. So everything is just discussing, no one knows what will happen. Can watch on Chinese data, let's see if any cured guy will have infection again. Right now seems none.
 

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that doesn’t magically transfer to the other 1.3x billion people somehow does it.

Of course it does not, but it does raise the portion of immune population to more than zero. That slows the subsequent waves. We can't rely on data from regarding the Chinese viral eradication due to the historical "veracity" of the data sources. We will have better data soon from other nations.

Course, one could go with the strategy of letting as many people get ill at once and accepting the extra losses.
 

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that doesn’t magically transfer to the other 1.3x billion people somehow does it.

Of course it does not, but it does raise the portion of immune population to more than zero. That slows the subsequent waves. We can't rely on data from regarding the Chinese viral eradication due to the historical "veracity" of the data sources. We will have better data soon from other nations.

Course, one could go with the strategy of letting as many people get ill at once and accepting the extra losses.
China's experience is if not do any controlling, every city can be wuhan!
 

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There will be 0% infection if you wear a mask when go to busy places and not touch your eyes, mouth, nose, wash your hands. Maybe some westen people think the mask only for sick people, but that is the best way that we can do to anti the virus.
Indeed Andy,

Forcing everyone right now in the West to wear masks when they go outside will force those who are sick to wear them. ( in the USA very few wear masks, even when sick ). Right now the big problem is there are no masks you can find for a normal price.
 

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Indeed Andy,

Forcing everyone right now in the West to wear masks when they go outside will force those who are sick to wear them. ( in the USA very few wear masks, even when sick ). Right now the big problem is there are no masks you can find for a normal price.
I will think out some way to find some surgical masks here. Will make some donation if i find some good ones ;)
 

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that doesn’t magically transfer to the other 1.3x billion people somehow does it.

Of course it does not, but it does raise the portion of immune population to more than zero. That slows the subsequent waves. We can't rely on data from regarding the Chinese viral eradication due to the historical "veracity" of the data sources. We will have better data soon from other nations.

Course, one could go with the strategy of letting as many people get ill at once and accepting the extra losses.
Of course I’m not advocating for that at all. I’m just trying to wrap my head around how China (and eventually SK and every other nation that gets over the hump) doesn’t just come roaring back full scale once they cease the measures that brought the spread under control initially.

I mean either their numbers aren’t even remotely accurate and a massive percentage of their population got infected and have built up immunity, or there is something strange going on (or I’m missing something).
 

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US infection data will have some big increasing later this week, if the communities are contorlled well, the data will drop next week. Can refer to Korea and Japan.
Well Andy, we only have 4 confirmed cases in the Upstate NY County I live in, everything here is shut down, all Bars, Gyms, Casinos, schools and being in the IT Business I see a run on computers and Laptops so people can work at home, I got a few calls today if I "rent" laptops, I do not but with people working at home, computers will be the next wave, My wife just got the notice she is off for 2 weeks, I have been pretty busy but a lot of my clients are shut down now. Hopefully things get stomped down soon.
 

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Well Andy, we only have 4 confirmed cases in the Upstate NY County I live in, everything here is shut down, all Bars, Gyms, Casinos, schools and being in the IT Business I see a run on computers and Laptops so people can work at home, I got a few calls today if I "rent" laptops, I do not but with people working at home, computers will be the next wave, My wife just got the notice she is off for 2 weeks, I have been pretty busy but a lot of my clients are shut down now. Hopefully things get stomped down soon.
Yes, that is the only way to stop the virus.
 
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