Video Of Blower Being Stolen From My Gardeners Truck

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@ 1:05 in the video it looks like they see the video camera as their heads are tilted towards it - or maybe that's the direction of the truck with the blower...
No doubt that these clowns were cruising the neighborhoods looking for something to steal. Yes, as they drove by the gardeners truck the first time they were indeed checking it out. Then they went down the street and made a u-turn to come back and steal the blower. I did not post up all the video I have as these two cameras show all that is needed.
 

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Maybe he just wants an insurance claim so he can get a new blower to relace his pos blower.
 

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I went back through the footage of the other cameras and this one gives a better picture of the guy who actually stole the blower. I also left in from the moment they entered the tract to the time they left for prosperity. Runs for about 2 minutes. Also this particular camera is getting replaced/upgraded in about two weeks with this camera. DH-SD5A425XA-HNR 4MP . Andy just notified me that the camera has shipped. :)

 
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I went back through the footage of the other cameras and this one gives a better picture of the guy who actually stole the blower. I also left in from the moment they entered the tract to the time they left for prosperity. Runs for about 2 minutes. Also this particular camera is getting replaced/upgraded in about two weeks with this camera. DH-SD5A425XA-HNR 4MP . Andy just notified me that this camera has shipped. :)

Yes with the PtZ you will be able to zoom down to street level and get good facial pics.
 

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My Thought something which can link him directly to the crime maybe phone or Wallet. Hope if it was a phone, it at-least got a crack screen now from the drop that he has to pay for.. or more.
maybe I'm just evil but I smile every time I hear of a crime happening and the perp leaving behind a wallet, cell phone, license plate or form of id. It's just the simple things in life that make me smile sometimes.
 

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Here is the deal.... This one case by itself may seem petty, BUT it can lead to bigger things. That is called good old fashioned police work. They stop the guy, see stolen property in place sight inside the car, search the car end up making an arrest. Then get a search warrant and search the house, etc. Next thing you know, they end up clearing a bunch of similar cases all from this one case.

See something, say something
 

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Here is the deal.... This one case by itself may seem petty, BUT it can lead to bigger things. That is called good old fashioned police work. They stop the guy, see stolen property in place sight inside the car, search the car end up making an arrest. Then get a search warrant and search the house, etc. Next thing you know, they end up clearing a bunch of similar cases all from this one case.

See something, say something
Agreed! Or they search pawn records and see this guy has pawned 100 different tools in the last month. Difficult part is most people dont know their serial numbers or mark their stuff so it's difficult to get property back to owners.


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Here is the deal.... This one case by itself may seem petty, BUT it can lead to bigger things. That is called good old fashioned police work. They stop the guy, see stolen property in place sight inside the car, search the car end up making an arrest. Then get a search warrant and search the house, etc. Next thing you know, they end up clearing a bunch of similar cases all from this one case.

See something, say something
Agreed! Or they search pawn records and see this guy has pawned 100 different tools in the last month. Difficult part is most people dont know their serial numbers or mark their stuff so it's difficult to get property back to owners.


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This sounds like a great idea. The population of the metro area I live in is over 6million people. Let's just say there's more than one or two pawn shops in town. I'm not sure it's as easy as you guys are proposing. (to share, I don't live in Socal like the OP here but I do live in a large metro area that sees similar population obstacles that this all presents.)

Good ole fashioned police work sounds good but in today's world with battling drug cartels and the reluctance of the police to bother with such small offenses (small to them, not necessarily to the crime victim), it doesn't happen. I've had the police flatly turn me down because they have bigger fish to go after. And while I'm not ready to divulge too much of my info, I'll share that I'm a mid/upper class homeowner in a (...somewhat...I guess?) influential area. If I can't get any police response, what kind of police action would be done for someone who is in a lower rent area?

I'm not refuting your ideas or support of this. I'd love to see it and wish it would happen. But unless you live in Mayberry and have Sherriff Andy Taylor on your side, it's unlikely.
 

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This sounds like a great idea. The population of the metro area I live in is over 6million people. Let's just say there's more than one or two pawn shops in town. I'm not sure it's as easy as you guys are proposing. (to share, I don't live in Socal like the OP here but I do live in a large metro area that sees similar population obstacles that this all presents.)

Good ole fashioned police work sounds good but in today's world with battling drug cartels and the reluctance of the police to bother with such small offenses (small to them, not necessarily to the crime victim), it doesn't happen. I've had the police flatly turn me down because they have bigger fish to go after. And while I'm not ready to divulge too much of my info, I'll share that I'm a mid/upper class homeowner in a (...somewhat...I guess?) influential area. If I can't get any police response, what kind of police action would be done for someone who is in a lower rent area?

I'm not refuting your ideas or support of this. I'd love to see it and wish it would happen. But unless you live in Mayberry and have Sherriff Andy Taylor on your side, it's unlikely.
And why do the people 'in charge' keep getting elected?

Let me guess. You live in a 'Sanctuary City', (Democratic stronghold) where the mentality is to let everybody out of jail, allow the homeless to set up their camp wherever they want, legalize open drug usage (free needles) kind of thing?

Local Police don't battle drug cartels. Quality of Life issues for the citizens should be at the top of the list
 

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And why do the people 'in charge' keep getting elected?

Let me guess. You live in a 'Sanctuary City', (Democratic stronghold) where the mentality is to let everybody out of jail, allow the homeless to set up their camp wherever they want, legalize open drug usage (free needles) kind of thing?

Local Police don't battle drug cartels. Quality of Life issues for the citizens should be at the top of the list
In the interest of not disrupting the forum, I'll edit my post to simply say that it's amazing that you supposedly know all this about where I live. In fact, it's completely wrong and you missed by a long, long distance. Thanks for clarifying what the local police do here and what their priorities should be. I assure you that the local PD does fight with the cartels here and are deeply intertwined with the FBI task forces as well. The priorities you mention, I wish that were the case here but they're not.
 
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I went back through the footage of the other cameras and this one gives a better picture of the guy who actually stole the blower. I also left in from the moment they entered the tract to the time they left for prosperity. Runs for about 2 minutes. Also this particular camera is getting replaced/upgraded in about two weeks with this camera. DH-SD5A425XA-HNR 4MP . Andy just notified me that the camera has shipped. :)
Great video clips Parley, but sad situation.
In that second clip, the perp blew through the stop sign. Too bad the police can't at least cite him for that.
As was said above, why can't the police search this person's dwelling and car looking for more stolen property, which we can all agree is most likely there. They have probable cause with proof they received stolen property in the video clip. The leaf blower is probably gone by this point but you never know. They might be fencing this gear at local lawnmower shops who sell new and used equipment. I'm sure the police ran the plates and unless the car is stolen, know where the perps live. Dirtbags!
 

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In the interest of not disrupting the forum, I'll edit my post to simply say that it's amazing that you supposedly know all this about where I live. In fact, it's completely wrong and you missed by a long, long distance. Thanks for clarifying what the local police do here and what their priorities should be. I assure you that the local PD does fight with the cartels here and are deeply intertwined with the FBI task forces as well. The priorities you mention, I wish that were the case here but they're not.
Well, you mentioned HPD, so I am going to assume Houston. And by the way, I was speaking about my own experience, but of course, you can twist that any way you want

Let See - City of Houston
...Sanctuary City ---> Check
...Democratic Controlled ---> Check
...Growing Homeless Population ---> Check
...Free Needles ---> Check
...Don't prosecute for 'petty theft' ---> Check

and you wonder what the problem is ?????
 

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Well, you mentioned HPD, so I am going to assume Houston. And by the way, I was speaking about my own experience, but of course, you can twist that any way you want

Let See - City of Houston
...Sanctuary City ---> Check
...Democratic Controlled ---> Check
...Growing Homeless Population ---> Check
...Free Needles ---> Check
...Don't prosecute for 'petty theft' ---> Check

and you wonder what the problem is ?????
I don't wonder at all what the problem is. You lost me on where that came from. Did I ever say I wondered what the problem was?

The point of what I was saying is that in larger metro areas, police work isn't done in the idealistic way that some are describing. This might be how it's done in smaller towns (& even that is debatable) but definitely not from my experience in major metro areas. This whole "and you wonder what the problem is ?????" looks like you're having an argument with yourself.
 
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sounds like it's the same with the police in your country as in mine in the uk . bring back judge roy Bean. i thought you could still shoot outlaws in the US.
 

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This sounds like a great idea. The population of the metro area I live in is over 6million people. Let's just say there's more than one or two pawn shops in town. I'm not sure it's as easy as you guys are proposing. (to share, I don't live in Socal like the OP here but I do live in a large metro area that sees similar population obstacles that this all presents.)

Good ole fashioned police work sounds good but in today's world with battling drug cartels and the reluctance of the police to bother with such small offenses (small to them, not necessarily to the crime victim), it doesn't happen. I've had the police flatly turn me down because they have bigger fish to go after. And while I'm not ready to divulge too much of my info, I'll share that I'm a mid/upper class homeowner in a (...somewhat...I guess?) influential area. If I can't get any police response, what kind of police action would be done for someone who is in a lower rent area?

I'm not refuting your ideas or support of this. I'd love to see it and wish it would happen. But unless you live in Mayberry and have Sherriff Andy Taylor on your side, it's unlikely.
Here in MN pawn shops are required to participate in a database where they enter what they buy, including a photo of the seller and their ID. They then hold the property for a period of time so the police have a window to reclaim it if it is stolen. So checking pawn shops is as simple as an online search.

The problem is that without a serial number it's hard to differentiate one tool from the 20 others pawned. And I don't doubt there are shady pawn shops that "mistype" the serial number or are vauge on the description they enter because any reclaimed property is revenue lost for them. When the same guy comes in every other day pawning 5 brand new Milwaukee power tools for $40/each you can't tell me that employee doesn't suspect theft.

I consider myself lucky that I live in a suburb where calls for service is low enough that they still have the resources to pursue thefts like this. I know in the bigger cities like Minneapolis/St Paul they just don't have time or personel to get to every call. Most low-level stuff like this won't even get a response and you go online and file a "report" so the insurance is happy.

I've heard of even bigger cities where they are spread so thin and crime is so high that when an officer starts their shift there is already a ton of calls in pending for a response and after a 12 hour shift of going from call to call they haven't even made a dent in it.

I also know that there are politicians who seem to think the answer is reducing punishments and releasing "low-level" offenders. There is nothing more frustrating for an officer than catching someone for a crime, even in the act, and then a month later seeing that they gave a sob story in court (if they even bothered to show up) and were given 3 months probation because they promised it wouldn't happen again, even though their criminal history is 20 pages long with arrest after arrest for the same damn thing.

So I totally understand the frustrations here with little to no response or even being turned away. Just keep in mind that it's not usually the officers decision (although there are lazy and burnt out cops out there). A lot of times there just are not the resources for pursuing "low level" crimes, even though I'd guarantee that turd who stole the blower is involved in a bunch of other stuff. Probably steals mail to cash fraudulent checks as well.

I'll get off my soapbox now. I don't mean to turn this into politics or anything. Just keep in mind that most (but I understand not all) officers are just as frustrated as everyone else. Especially during this COVID pandemic where jails are turning nearly every arrest away.. but that's another matter.


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I came across this tonight and it made me think of this thread :)

A couple of physicians, (they are both gynecologists in Florida) suffering from 4th degree TDS decided to steal a Trump flag from an elderly neighbor's flagpole with their young kids present. Unfortunately, it was all caught on video (Ring Doorbell Cam) so it kind of fits nicely into this thread. Kind of shows how law enforcement actually works once you get out of those Democratic Controlled areas where they believe in Law and Order.

Here is what they were arrested for:
  • contributing to the delinquency of a minor
  • trespassing
  • larceny – petit theft
  • criminal mischief – property damage of more than $200 but less than $1,000
Here is an article with the Ring video:
 

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It was reported to the police and they came out. The problem is my gardener does not want to press charges or as he said, "he does not want to see them go to jail". He valued the blower at $700.
He's part of the problem. Something doesn't add up.
I agree. It makes me wonder if maybe your gardener acquired it himself.

I know you said both cameras are the same, it must be the lighting because the 2nd angle from the U turn is superb. Good plate and facial shot.

BTW does the gardener have to press charges? I know if the UK, although it's usual for a victim to complain, the police can press charges independently if they desire even against a victims wishes. I think it all comes down to how they are feeling and whether the victims testimony is crucial to the case. Here there appears to be clear evidence without this side of the victim saying it was a couple of mates coming around to borrow it with permission.
 
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