Motion Detection is all Blue Iris software or Camera hardware?

ABnSultan · Jun 25, 2020

i'm asking because i have one Chinese camera that rarely even detect anything

I have 5 camera 4X Amcrest and 1X with no brand from aliexpress ( sorry no page link the camera no longer exists )

all the cameras settings are copied from one of the Amcrest camera so they all have the same setting

so I went and played with the Chinese camera motion setting and raised it's sensitivity but still, it won't trigger, in the past 4 days it only detected once which the plant's movement by the wind

I have cloned this camera to record 24/7 on channel 2 which is the low resolution, and from its footage, it detects motion but with no rectangle only purple pixels (I appreciate if someone can tell what does it mean)
here's the footage, I'm not sure why it didn't trigger on the main camera
View attachment 192.168.86.100 - Remote Desktop Connection 2020-06-25 10-19-41_Trim.mp4

I thought Blue Iris analyze the footage IRL and detect motion but it seems camera firmware/hardware involved as well?

IAmATeaf · Jun 25, 2020

Try lowering the make time?

ABnSultan · Jun 25, 2020

IAmATeaf said:
Try lowering the make time?

tried 0.5 and also tried 2.0 in case higher is better

but nothing seems to work

I really want to know if the camera has to do with the motion detection or all Blue Iris so i don't waste more time on it and just replace it

biggen · Jun 25, 2020

Dont use the cam firmware for motion. Turn it off and use BI only.

ABnSultan · Jun 25, 2020

biggen said:
Dont use the cam firmware for motion. Turn it off and use BI only.

all my camera motion detection are disable

but it seemed Blue Iris use the camera crapy motion detection to detect motion even if they are disabled, that's why I asked the question in the title and want to make sure

IAmATeaf · Jun 25, 2020

Try deleting the cam, then adding it. Then configure motion in bi but initially leave everything at default.

Tekbotslaya · Jun 25, 2020

What do the settings on the record tab look like?

samplenhold · Jun 25, 2020

Have you tried using zones?

Trigger/Motion Sensor/Advanced - Use Zones and Hot SPot

ABnSultan · Jun 25, 2020

Tekbotslaya said:
What do the settings on the record tab look like?

samplenhold said:
Have you tried using zones?

Trigger/Motion Sensor/Advanced - Use Zones and Hot SPot

no there's no need for me to use it right now, i might later

ABnSultan · Jun 25, 2020

ok after many tweaking around for days i think i finally found the solution
I disabled the Hardware accelerated decode and it starts recording again, I put it back to default and there was no recording

I need to read more about it now and why it caused this camera to not detected motion and why the other camera is fine with it enabled

thanks to all who helped and I wich this helped some else having a problem with motion detecting.

wittaj · Jun 25, 2020

BI will only use the camera motion settings if you pull them into BI in the BI Camera Settings > Video > Configure > Get ONVIF Trigger Events.

I suspect the camera has a really high i-frame rate that is causing it to miss the event. You may not even be able to change it within the camera. For kicks try a really long pre-trigger buffer like 2 minutes and then see if it picks it up - if it does then it is the i-frame rate.

ABnSultan · Jun 25, 2020

wittaj said:
BI will only use the camera motion settings if you pull them into BI in the BI Camera Settings > Video > Configure > Get ONVIF Trigger Events.

it's disabled but good to know there's an option like that

wittaj said:
I suspect the camera has a really high i-frame rate that is causing it to miss the event. You may not even be able to change it within the camera. For kicks try a really long pre-trigger buffer like 2 minutes and then see if it picks it up - if it does then it is the i-frame rate.

I can but it seemed only on the 2nd stream which I'm using for 24/7 recording I can change the i-frame

wittaj · Jun 25, 2020

Turn off the object detection and see if that does it. I do not use that feature for most of my cams.

bp2008 · Jun 25, 2020

Smart Codec basically turns off normal i-frames and is not properly compatible with Blue Iris. That is why you don't see an i-frame interval option on the main stream. Turn Smart Codec off and your problems might go away.

I'm confused though. You only posted a video from the cloned cam that is sub-stream only, but the screenshots are of your main stream configuration. So we really don't know much for certain here.

ABnSultan · Jun 25, 2020

bp2008 said:
Smart Codec basically turns off normal i-frames and is not properly compatible with Blue Iris. That is why you don't see an i-frame interval option on the main stream. Turn Smart Codec off and your problems might go away.

you are right I disabled Smart Codec and i-frame option showed up <3

bp2008 said:
I'm confused though. You only posted a video from the cloned cam that is sub-stream only, but the screenshots are of your main stream configuration. So we really don't know much for certain here.

yeah the video of the cloned cam that record 24/7 was to show that it's detecting me but only pixels overlay no rectangle which made me wonder why the main stream cam is not detecting anything
that's why I was posting main stream cam configuration to try and found out why it's not detecting and what I need to change

it turn out by disableing the Hardware accelerated decode fixed my problem, not sure why but I need to do a lot of testing

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