Analog cameras vs IP cameras... is it worth it?

[Born4TheSky]

So here is another nube... thats need advise. My goal is to be able access cameras easily online, quality and stability.

I have this cameras that I never saw in actionBOSH WZ18 and I just got LOREX 8005 so do you think is it worth upgrade? Big plus that those cameras already installed and all I have to do is to find a compatible DVR for them.

What do you guys think?

 

[fenderman]

So here is another nube... thats need advise. My goal is to be able access cameras easily online, quality and stability.

I have this cameras that I never saw in actionBOSH WZ18 and I just got LOREX 8005 so do you think is it worth upgrade? Big plus that those cameras already installed and all I have to do is to find a compatible DVR for them.

What do you guys think?

Those analog cameras are 540tvl... They will look like complete garbage..

 

[bigredfish]

Comparing apples and grapefruits there...

 

[TonyR]

The Bosch cams are analog and barely .4 megapixel resolution (that's less than 1/2 of 1 megapixel) and as @fenderman stated, they will look horrible.
The Lorex cams are IP cams with POE (a big plus), are NOT analog and have 4K resolution / 8 MP or 20 times better resolution than the Bosch cams, a definite 'upgrade'.
But good luck finding an NVR (Network Video Recorder) that works with those Lorex IP / POE cams other than the one shown on the site with your posted link, as it states at the bottom of the camera info: "Compatible with the Lorex HD LNR600/LNR610 Series NVRs only. For the most up-to-date list of compatible recorders, visit www.lorextechnology.com/compatibility". That link does NOT even find the LNB8005 camera.
The LNR6100 NVR alone without cams is ==> here <==

 

[Born4TheSky]

Greatly appreciate your input guys! Bosh cameras must go. I was thinking to pair lorex cameras with Synology surveillance station or keep original NVR. However I can't access live stream from the phone unless I am on wifi with that NVR, which is a big problem.

Would you recommend other cameras/setup. I need at least 4 cameras with a $1000 budget, including NVR/DVR.

 

[cyberwolf_uk]

Greatly appreciate your input guys! Bosh cameras must go. I was thinking to pair lorex cameras with Synology surveillance station or keep original NVR. However I can't access live stream from the phone unless I am on wifi with that NVR, which is a big problem.

Would you recommend other cameras/setup. I need at least 4 cameras with a $1000 budget, including NVR/DVR.

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Your choice between the indoor or outdoor cameras... And some spare change from your $1000 budget to by a beer or two.

 

[Born4TheSky]

Seems like Lorex cameras that I have should yield better performance. I know that Lorex is manufactured by dahua.

 

[Dodutils]

Analog cameras improved a lot and a cheaper than IP cams (but need an NVR for recording/intelligence) but the one you selected is crap.

 

[Born4TheSky]

Analog cameras improved a lot and a cheaper than IP cams (but need an NVR for recording/intelligence) but the one you selected is crap.

I didn't select them, I got them for free and was just thinking to reuse them.

 

[Dodutils]

I didn't select them, I got them for free and was just thinking to reuse them.

OK, but whenever it's free, you may not want to waste too much time on it, sometime I get some products for free/testing and usually they are crap ;-)

 

[fenderman]

I didn't select them, I got them for free and was just thinking to reuse them.

Don't...540 tvl is useless

 

[Born4TheSky]

OK, but whenever it's free, you may not want to waste too much time on it, sometime I get some products for free/testing and usually they are crap ;-)

That's exactly why I am here and I am glad that I asked. I am new to camera world.

 

[Born4TheSky]

Don't...540 tvl is useless

I won't waste my time with them. Thank you everyone for the input. Now I just have to decide what I am going to get.

 

[mat200]

The Bosch cams are analog and barely .4 megapixel resolution (that's less than 1/2 of 1 megapixel) and as @fenderman stated, they will look horrible.
The Lorex cams are IP cams with POE (a big plus), are NOT analog and have 4K resolution / 8 MP or 20 times better resolution than the Bosch cams, a definite 'upgrade'.
But good luck finding an NVR (Network Video Recorder) that works with those Lorex IP / POE cams other than the one shown on the site with your posted link, as it states at the bottom of the camera info: "Compatible with the Lorex HD LNR600/LNR610 Series NVRs only. For the most up-to-date list of compatible recorders, visit www.lorextechnology.com/compatibility". That link does NOT even find the LNB8005 camera.
The LNR6100 NVR alone without cams is ==> here <==

Hi Tony,

FYI - Those are Dahua OEM cameras and have already been tested by purchasers to even work with Blue Iris.
They should work with other Dahua OEM NVRs also.

 

[mat200]

That's exactly why I am here and I am glad that I asked. I am new to camera world.

Welcome Born4TheSky,

Note, with that Lorex 4K kit, you should be able to add 2 of those Dahua starlights to that kit and get a nice value.

It's easy to get swamped with information here, so I wanted to share some notes with you

Please check out @giomania 's notes:
Dahua Starlight Varifocal Turret (IPC-HDW5231R-Z)

I have also made notes which are a summary of a lot of the reading I've been doing here,:
Looking for some advice and direction!

Have fun joining us here.