Camera install shaming at Sams Club

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So my local Sams Club just spent the past 8 months remodeling. They installed probably in the neighborhood of 200 new cameras. They all look like a decent job, until you get to this one.
There is space above this cam inside the building that they could have dropped the cable to the cam.
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So my local Sams Club just spent the past 8 months remodeling. They installed probably in the neighborhood of 200 new cameras. They all look like a decent job, until you get to this one.
There is space above this cam inside the building that they could have dropped the cable to the cam.
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Welcome to outsourcing to the lowest fixed price bidder.

( I must say I have seen some really crappy work with fixed priced outsourced work... really crappy work )
 
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I feel like that camera was originally supposed to go where the box is (per quote), but once installed the 30-degree field of view only "saw" the pillar, and some chap was like "well this makes me look like a complete idiot", but being a fixed price quote this was all the vendor was willing to absorb cost-wise to move it. :lmao:
 

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Welcome to outsourcing to the lowest fixed price bidder.

( I must say I have seen some really crappy work with fixed priced outsourced work... really crappy work )
I hear about such work at our local schools from a friend that has recently taken over their IT duties lately...instead of the dumb-ass contractors.

Yeah, EMT would have been cheaper.

Of course, then there is the new whole building paint job. Within 2 weeks, it was peeling off in large slabs all over the building.
 

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I don't even understand why these contractors are still using these overpriced garbage cams anyways.
 

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I don't even understand why these contractors are still using these overpriced garbage cams anyways.
A couple reasons i think:
-There are a lot of jobs in various industries that are billed at roughly materials times 2. People are kind of used to this, if you bid a job where labor is 4x materials... good luck
-Companies like bosch, Avigilon, etc, do a better job of standing behind their products and a better job of pretending to care about cyber security.
-They aren't blacklisted from government contracts.
-They are better at writing software interfaces and manuals in English. Leaving a customer with a product with a chinglish interface doesn't inspire confidence.
 
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A couple reasons i think:
-There are a lot of jobs in various industries that are billed at roughly materials times 2. People are kind of used to this, if you bid a job where labor is 4x materials... good luck
-Companies like bosch, Avigilon, etc, do a better job of standing behind their products and a better job of pretending to care about cyber security.
-They aren't blacklisted from government contracts.
-They are better at writing software interfaces and manuals in English. Leaving a customer with a product with a chinglish interface doesn't inspire confidence.
I wish I can bill my labor 4X materials!!!
 

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I had similar install at a neighborhood store. They had at least 5 different types of analog cameras hanging from the ceiling to include a bullet cam half the size of a cinderblocks. They asked me to do a quote to convert their system to all IP and do a proper Installation. They didn't like the cost of the upgrade and are going to continue to deal with that mess.
 
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