Fisheye cam low light limitations

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It seems most fisheye/360 cams do not do well in low light environments based on what I have read. Physically, why is that? What prevents them from performing well in low light?
 

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the tiny aperture that is required for ultra-wide angle entirely destroys low light performance.. since they are only appropriate for use indoors, its typically not that much of a problem.

same problem with pinhole cameras; they suck hard in low light conditions too.. larger the aperture the more light it can gather.
 

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Gotcha, thanks. With the exponential growth of technology it would be great to see a low light fisheye at a reasonable price point.
 

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why? in practice fisheye cameras are virtually worthless.. you cant have ultra wide angle cameras and reasonable detail, even with 4k resolution.

they are a niche product; mounted in high density on ceilings in retail environments to prevent shoplifting.. outside they are entirely worthless until someone gets within a few feet.
 

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Tech needs to produce what I mentioned with great pic/vid details. Basically take all good features from a solid existing cam and make them operable and good in a fisheye version.....For areasonable price.
It is probably a pipe dream.
 

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its not technology; its physics.. the optics are the problem not the technology.. I suppose if they become 100x more sensitive the'll be okay, but still worse than the non-fisheye variants.

you can do multi-sensors, here's an outdoor 180 degree pano camera with no fisheyeing.. its 3x6mm 2MP cameras in one chassis: IPC-PFW8601-A180 | Dahua Technology
 

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3 exmor sensors is solid. Is that a new cam? The "interwebs" did not have much info. You happen to know approx price?
 

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yeah its a new cam, iirc it was ~$650USD when I inquired about it..

I wish it provided 3x1080p streams instead of a single 4k wide stream though.
 
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