WTB Help with which ptz camera to buy

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  1. itservice

    itservice Young grasshopper

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    I'm looking for a good outdoor mini dome with audio ptz POE Camera.
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    For any help
     
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    itservice Young grasshopper

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    Domes outside are a pretty shitty ordeal, they are only appropriate indoors..
     
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    itservice Young grasshopper

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    that's good to know
     
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    clear plastic will sunburn and degrade w/exposure to UV, the'll look like old plastic car headlights if they are always in the sun..

    the curved plastic also catches light from all over and can fog up/bind the camera, outside lighting is always changing and you cant controll it like inside.

    water spots, dirt, dust, etc on the dome reflect IR night vision back into the lens and blind it, and the dome glows with IR and attracts insects like none other.

    the only reason to ever use a dome outside is if your having issues w/vandals and already lost a few cameras; and then you should just go w/cheaper fixed cameras and not PTZ's.
     
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    itservice Young grasshopper

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    Thanks for all the info I just read this whole thread. Where can I order one from that has the best price and what's the next model up from this one?
     
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    Are there any issues with having a black face PTZ in the open with UV? I'm assuming not but since you have experience.
     
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    nope, the cover over the lens is glass.. black ABS plastic might change color shade eventually, but it'll take a while.. longer than the life of the camera I suppose.

    Its clear plastic that turns cloudy/milky and ruins the camera because you cant buy replacement domes very easy.
     
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    itservice Young grasshopper

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    Nayr what do you think of this one Camera-SD59225U-HNI I was looking at SD49225T-HN
    Dennis
     
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    they are both fine cameras, the Pro costs more than the Lite
     
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    from what I saw the main difference is the more expensive one has electronic image stabilization and auto tracking, if you don't care about those, go for the T.
     
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    The Pro:
    • Also utilizes 24VAC and comes w/PSU
    • Is Larger
    • Is Faster
    • Has Auto Tracking
    • Has Image Stabilization
    • Has 1080p Substream
    • Has 50/60fps vs 25/30
    • Has MicroSD Card Slot
     
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    Thanks, you made me even more glad I got that one lol. I'm assuming that PSU is just a wall wart? I bought the 30w POE+ injector you linked me to last week, I'd rather run ethernet to it and that's it.
     
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    I was looking at the other pro's, here is some 40x camera porn for you I ran into.
     
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    its a power brick, and a rather large one..
     
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    haha, oh well, glad I ordered an injector, should be here a day before the camera lol.
     
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    can you tell me if the Camera-SD59225U-HNI will work with a Hikvision DS-7716NI-SP/16.
    Thanks
    For all your help
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    @itservice, it will work. Just make sure you have your POE+ injector on and it will work like any other camera
     
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    the Hikvision DS-7716NI-SP/16 has POE do need to also add a injector?
     
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    nope
     
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    drew91101 Getting the hang of it

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    My bad...I missed the part about the psu
     
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    The DS-7716NI-SP/16 has 802.3at PoE+ built in..

    The Dahua should work w/the Hikvision via ONVIF... but the Hik wont know how to configure the dahua and not all features may work.. but basic video recording/playback and ptz should work.
     
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    @nayr if the NVR is 802.3at (rather than af) does that mean that you don't need a poe injector? assuming that your poe switch still has available power?
    IOW, I'm looking to get a SD49225T-HNI soon, will my ltn8716-p16 be able to power the ptz without an injector?
     
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    802.3at == PoE+ and will output at minimum ~25W of power
    802.3af == PoE and will output at minimum ~14W of power

    The Dahua PTZ's require 802.3at (PoE+) because they draw ~23W of power..

    with your 802.3at capable NVR you wont need an 802.3at PoE injector/midspan.
     
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    Awesome, Thank you!
     
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    Reading through this post and damn, Nayr you are the Funken Wagnel of security cameras. Incredible and nice to have someone with a lot of knowledge like this so folks don't make them nooby mistakes.
     
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