Installing panels light current systems

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  1. Fidal

    Fidal Banned

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    Hello everyone.

    I would like to install Building Management system Panel, Fire Alarm System Panel, CCTV, Intrusion System panel, Public Address System Panel. and Access Control System for the new building.
    Please my questions are:

    1- What are the best places to install these systems Panels? is it the Security room For example?

    2- Can I install these panels inside Racks? is this good idea or not?

    Thank you in Advance..
    Fidel.

     
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    depends, if your security room is secure and not just a guard station with displays.. If you have an engineering office then thats usually where I see em, security guards are not as bright a the engineers heh.. but they need to be in a place that just a select few people can access.

    and racks are ideal, more flexible as time goes on..
     
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    locked in a high security cage in a sub basement is pretty common.
     
  4. Fidal

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    I have talked with one engineer he told me you do not need to put it in Cabinet Racks, you can put them in wall mounting.
    the question is that. is there main panel for access control system, and is there panel for cctv or only servers?
    thank you
    Fidel Castro.
     
  5. Brad_C

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    it depends on the building risk. In a higher risk building the security and access systems are physically segregated and secured to remove the need for bms and maitenancy contractors to be cleared or escorted. Again, if you have to ask these questions you should be looking for experienced staff to teach you.
     
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    Some access control systems have integrated intrusion alarms
     
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    If you have a system with 1000 alarm points and 1000 access control doors, is it an access control system with integrated intrusion detection or a security system with integrated access control?

    I was just using the terminology as posited by the original poster. We generally refer to them as Security Management Systems, and that covers intrusion and access under one umbrella. 6 of one, half a dozen of the other.

    Either way, you want them physically isolated so the building maintenance knuckle-draggers don't go unplugging patch leads, plugging their BMS laptop into the security network or otherwise having access to the security management infrastructure. Again, all about risk.
     
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    Ideally such systems have integration with CCTV so snapshots can be save on each access or intrusion event in addition to the usual recordings.

    As the saying goes, there's no security without physical security.
     
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    Again I will post to you the same answer I posted to you before.

     
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    You can "advice" me all you like, but I'm not the one asking for assistance :) I've also done a building or two in the Middle East and have a pretty rough idea of the capabilities of the contractors over there.
     
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    advice is noun and advise is verb you should type I can advise you.

    good if you have good ideas lunch them here let us discuss them if you want
     
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    I was quoting you, and it appears you noticed and edited your post, *then* attempted to give me an english lesson. Well done indeed.
     
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    Comedy troll alert!

    Actual I don't think OP is a troll, that is truly worrying for anyone he is contracting for.
     
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    Yeah, as soon as I clicked "post" on my last reply I went "I've just been trolled".....
     
  15. Fidal

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    to the Donkeys and to the people with animal morals. you are not enforced to join my post, if you have an answer and I doubt it!! or just go to another post and prove that you are Donkeys.. do not prove it here in my post I do not have time for you my time is very very valuable.
     
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    As I have stated in your other post...do this again and you will be banned.
     
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    Is that why you don't have time to use correct punctuation?

    The only donkey (lower-case d) is you. I wouldn't dream of telling people off for their bad English if mine was anywhere near as bad as you. Actually I wouldn't tell people off because I'm not a complete donkey. This is a forum where we share our experiences and help others.

    If your time is so valuable then you should pay someone for help.
     
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    Del Boy you are my donkey i pay you to put my stuff on you.. i do not ask you about my English cuz i speak it better than you "my donkey"

    yes my time is Valuable and that's why I pay you as my donkey to conduct on you..

    and to the owner of this forum if there are people with animal morals here and join my post such as Del boy it is my duty to respond on what they say if you want to banned my nick-name and keep them then good luck i will look for another Forum. you should block them in the first place so you can have healthy post
     
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  20. Fidal

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    yes come eat my dick as you said in your comment that you want it very badly and yes it would be great
     
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    I would, but they kill folks like you in the country you are making these posts from. So be careful....
     
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    Why do you keep using diaereses?

    I've never seen anyone over five years old use this. Very confusing.
     
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    wow....I think that sums up all of the OPs posts in this thread and the other one he started.