Milestone Essential will be free for up to 8 cams..no recording limit...

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  1. fenderman

    fenderman Staff Member

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  2. Brad_C

    Brad_C Banned

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    Cool. So March Networks Command is free for 8 cameras but with a 1 week retention time. Milestone trumps that.
     
  3. Dreamboat

    Dreamboat Young grasshopper

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    Making Essential free for 8 cams is great but I think the good news ends here. Adding yearly paid subscription packs for further expanding the Essential installation sounds me like a suicide attempt for the product. People will rather go for the next Express version (hopefully Milestone will not apply subscription packs there also). Subscription packs will make sense in case Milestone could provide pure cloud service including cloud storageā€¦ but I think Milestone is far from that point yet.
     
  4. fenderman

    fenderman Staff Member

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    They dont make money on free vms...so yes, its simply a way to force users to buy express if they need more than 8ch....the price of express will also come down to 70 per channel, no subscription.
     
  5. Brad_C

    Brad_C Banned

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    That's one way of looking at it. Also look at it from a marketing and exposure perspective. They get people who run this stuff at home, or on small sites which gets them people with exposure and experience. Next time one of them works for an organization where someone needs to select a VMS they get a strong recommendation internally and they're more likely to make that choice. It's a really good marketing move. I don't particularly rate Milestone, but they certainly do slick marketing well and their system is capable of larger systems.
     
  6. fenderman

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    Home users who have any say in larger installations are an extreme minority...
     
  7. MR2

    MR2 Young grasshopper

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    I was one.
     
  8. LittleScoobyMaster

    LittleScoobyMaster Getting the hang of it

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    I think I have run into this exact problem with Milestone Xprotect Essentials.

    I am currently running Essentials R3 and using all 8 free camera licenses.

    I now want to add 1 more camera to have 9 total.

    With Essentials, my only option appears to be to purchase an 8 channel license pack at $400 per year. That would give me 16 total camera licenses of which I will only be using 9 (10 at the very most as this is for a home installation).

    This seems like a precarious situation. I really want to add that 9th camera, but not for $400 extra per year when the other 7 licenses will not be used. This is a pickle....

    I haven't researched the Express license set up yet to see if it will be better in some way but I really wish I could just use the 8 free licenses and pay $70 for 1 extra license to get me to 9.

    This situation hurts my inner child greatly. My inner child is crying right now... :(

    I almost wonder if purchasing the Dahua multi cam would get me around this situation by allowing me to drop one camera by adding the panoramic cam.

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    I haven't checked yet to see if Essentials would do something sad like charge 3 licenses for this one panoramic cam since it has 3 sensors. Hopefully they count it as 1 camera license only. Ahh. I see that camera is a small fortune so that won't work either... :( :(
     
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  9. tangent

    tangent Known around here

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    So just switch to Blue Iris...
     
  10. LittleScoobyMaster

    LittleScoobyMaster Getting the hang of it

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    I still have a copy of BI lying around but I prefer Xprotect over BI. I may just use it for the extra camera though. Or I might just use one of the camera's built in software but it would be nice and streamlined to run them all on the same solution. I've found that Xprotect really saves CPU cycles quite a bit over BI and the playback features of Xprotect are pretty slick.
     
  11. rnatalli

    rnatalli Getting the hang of it

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    The saving CPU cycles is definitely true, just wish XProtect wasn't such a huge program and easier to use.
     
  12. mydecember

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    Marketing is good when it does more money. In the short term the company will lose in profit, it's a fact. But it will get more customers, you are right. Time till tell is it a right step or not. But, without a doubt, it's good news for users!