Review-OEM 2mp IPC-5241TM-AS 2.8mm Starlight

[looney2ns]

Dahua OEM IPC-T5241TM-AS from EMPIRETECANDY
2MP WDR Turret AI Network Camera

Review unit courtesy of Andy (@EMPIRETECANDY) in exchange for a fair and honest review.
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This unit was a return from one of Andy's customers, wrong camera was ordered and/or sent.

Price Approximately US $120
Link to camera on Andy's AliExpress store: US $118.74 6% OFF|2019 New Arriving IP Camera IPC T5241TM AS 2MP WDR IR Eyeball AI Network Camera , free DHL shipping-in Surveillance Cameras from Security & Protection on Aliexpress.com | Alibaba Group
(price and link valid 10/6/19)

The IPC-T model number is an OEM model number specific to EMPIRETECANDY

Spec Sheet: Spec Sheet
Quick Start Guide: [URL=https://www.dahuasecurity.com/asset/upload/uploads/soft/20190410/DH-IPC-HDW5241TM-AS_QuickStartGuide_20190408.pdf]Quick Start[/URL}

2MP WDR IR Eyeball AI Network Camera
>1/2.8” 2Megapixel progressive scan STARVIS™ CMOS
> H.265 & H.264 triple-stream encoding
> 25/30 fps@1080P (1920 × 1080) > WDR (120 dB), Day/Night (ICR), 3D DNR, AWB, AGC, BLC
> Multiple network monitoring: Web viewer, CMS (DSS/PSS) & DMSS
> 2.8 mm fixed lens (3.6 mm, 6.0 mm optional)
> Built-in MIC
> Max. IR LEDs Length 50 m
> Micro SD memory, IP67
> Minimum Illumination 0.002 Lux@F1.6

With the specs it should be interesting.
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[looney2ns]

Recordings made at factory defualts, except for channel title and time setting.
Recorded and exported with Blue Iris.
As you can see, it has the common issue that some recent cams have had, that will require a firmware fix with the IR blowing out faces.

 

[looney2ns]

video up

 

[bigredfish]

So basically a 5231 with AI?

 

[Arjun]

I'd say more like the 4321 with AI as its a fixed lens

So basically a 5231 with AI?

 

[looney2ns]

So basically a 5231 with AI?

It has a little better lux rating than the 5231 and the 4231. And it shows the minor improvement at night.

 

[JohnKol]

As you can see, it has the common issue that some recent cams have had, that will require a firmware fix with the IR blowing out faces.

Is this firmware fix available yet?

 

[looney2ns]

Is this firmware fix available yet?

Check here: EmpireTech Andy | IP Cam Talk

 

[JohnKol]

Check here: EmpireTech Andy | IP Cam Talk

Thanks, found it.

I think it would be much more helpful if the issues noted in a thread are closed in that thread, instead of having to wade through a long list of fixes to find the one that corresponds to a particular model.

 

[Arjun]

Seems to be no difference between this and the IPC-5241TM-ASE

 

[Solar Deity]

Bam..........

 

[dudemaar]

If you had a choice for budget cameras, would this camera be better than the IPC-T2431T-AS 4MP ? Or any Lorex 4K cameras?

 

[sebastiantombs]

Given that the 2431 is 4MP on a 1/3" sensor, which is really anemic even at 2MP, the 5241 will run rings around it all night long. Chase sensor size, not megapixels unless you have night time lighting like a baseball stadium holding a night game.

 

[wittaj]

And to sell Lorex 4K at that pricepoint, they are not on an ideal MP/sensor ratio. A 2MP will blow away a 4K on anything but the 1/1.2" sensor all night long.

My neighbor was bragging to me how he only needed his four 2.8mm fixed lens 4k cams Lorex cams to see his entire property and the street and his whole backyard. His car was sitting in the driveway practically touching the garage door and his video quality was useless to ID the perp not even 10 feet away. Meanwhile my 2MP varifocal optically zoomed in to the public sidewalk provided the money shot to the police to get my neighbors all their stuff back. Nobody else had video that could provide anything useful, other than what time this motion blur ghost was at their car.

 

[dudemaar]

Ya I agree. 6 of them will be inside a store watching cash and workers, lots of lights 2 outside not much light.

 

[sebastiantombs]

They'd probably do fine inside, but outside would be a fail. Just don't shut the lights off inside if you want good video though.

 

[dudemaar]

What about pre setting camera instead of default settings. Would I be better off with 1/30 auto (default) or pre setting every camera at 1/60? I have worked with certain uniview cameras before and noticed there default was at 1/50 exposure.

 

[wittaj]

The faster the shutter, the less the motion blur. But the faster the shutter, the darker the image, so it is a balance that if field of view dependent.

 

[sebastiantombs]

Dialing in is location specific generally speaking. That said, you don't want shutter speeds slower than 1/60 at night. Remember 1/60 is twice as fast as 1/30. Leaving anything on auto will have dubious results depending on each specific location.

 

[dudemaar]

I understand and I am trying to dial in my own personal cameras like this via good write ups from you guys, but it takes days of trial and error. I don’t have this kinda time on customer installs that are on a budget. So I thought maybe there was a better default setting for each model camera.