Suggest me 2.8mm cameras

[MrN1ce9uy]

I recently bought 2x IPC-HDW2231R-ZS 2MP Starlights, but they aren't available now to buy more.

I only need 2.8mm not necessarily varifocal. Would like it so see at night/day.

What are some other choices that would be worth the cost?

Thanks

Edit: Could anyone tell me why I should or shouldn't buy any of these?

IPC-HDW4233C-A -https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIABFE6PP5061&Description=dahua%20starlight&cm_re=dahua_starlight-_-9SIABFE6PP5061-_-Product
IPC-HDW4433C-A - Dahua Multi-language IPC-HDW4433C-A 2.8mm lens Starlight Mini Dome IP Camera 4MP POE replace ipc-hdw4431c-a IP67 Built-in web CCTV Camera - Newegg.com
DS-2CD2342WD-I -https://www.amazon.com/HIKVISION-Megapixel-Outdoor-Surveillance-DS-2CD2342WD-I/dp/B01EN3YBZ4/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1544935763&sr=1-5&keywords=hikvision

 

[mat200]

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Edit: Could anyone tell me why I should or shouldn't buy any of these?

IPC-HDW4233C-A -https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIABFE6PP5061&Description=dahua%20starlight&cm_re=dahua_starlight-_-9SIABFE6PP5061-_-Product
IPC-HDW4433C-A - Dahua Multi-language IPC-HDW4433C-A 2.8mm lens Starlight Mini Dome IP Camera 4MP POE replace ipc-hdw4431c-a IP67 Built-in web CCTV Camera - Newegg.com

HI @MrN1ce9uy

Both of the IPC-HDW4233C-A and IPC-HDW4433C-A are Chinese market cameras - so do be aware of that, and thus there is a chance that you may not be able to update the firmware nor have them interoperate with an international or us model Dahua NVR, also a factory reset may cause the camera to restore it's Chinese firmware.

The IPC-HDW2231R-ZS should hopefully be restocked by Andy ( @EMPIRETECANDY ) and will perform better than those 2 in low light.

Another option would be the IPC-HDW42xx turret model.

 

[MrN1ce9uy]

I see.

The multi-language camera does say "please do not update this camera."

They are so cheap I am tempted to buy one,.. or two. I use an offline Blue Iris PC.

What's the worst that can happen if I don't update it? What's so bad about not being able to update it?

(I'm thinking worst-case scenario it will be in Chinese and I will be stuck with translating Chinese to configure it.)

Are they actually Starlight cameras? Or could they be a fake? I'm just wanting to know the ins-and-outs of the market here.

Thanks

 

[mat200]

I see.

The multi-language camera does say "please do not update this camera."

They are so cheap I am tempted to buy one,.. or two. I use an offline Blue Iris PC.

What's the worst that can happen if I don't update it? What's so bad about not being able to update it?

(I'm thinking worst-case scenario it will be in Chinese and I will be stuck with translating Chinese to configure it.)

Are they actually Starlight cameras? Or could they be a fake? I'm just wanting to know the ins-and-outs of the market here.

Thanks

@MrN1ce9uy

Without the ability to find proper spec sheets for these Chinese market cameras or comprehensive head to head reviews it is a challenge to determine how they really compare.

There are some comparisons reviews here with some Chinese market cameras - so do search for those model numbers and see if you can find any. ( tigerwillow has some Chinese Market camera and has shared some reviews, wopi may have also - so do check )

DO not trust the specs published by the vendors as we have no way to confirm them - and often they have a significant incentive to publish something which is a positive selling point even if it is not true.

 

[VorlonFrog]

Night-time images from the Chinese cameras are not nearly of the quality from an international Starlight camera. You pay less, but you get FAR LESS for your money.

 

[MrN1ce9uy]

What if I wanted cameras with built-in microphones? Are there any good cameras with that feature?

 

[Q™]

Yes. Some of the Dahua Starlight 2MP cameras have microphones.

 

[MrN1ce9uy]

Yes. Some of the Dahua Starlight 2MP cameras have microphones.

Can you find the model numbers or links to them?
Thanks

 

[MrN1ce9uy]

I found this one -
IPC-HDW4231EM-ASE Dahua OEM 2MP IP Camera H.265 ePOE Starlight IR Mic IP67 IPC-HDW4231EM-ASE 2.8mm 6901021067758 | eBay

*Edit: Or this one seems more legit from Andy.
IPC-HDW5231R-ZE https://www.amazon.com/EmpireTech-IPC-HDW5231R-ZE-Starlight-Eyeball-Network/dp/B07B7K1P28/ref=sr_1_1?m=A329YQ83EBQGJF&s=merchant-items&ie=UTF8&qid=1544999688&sr=1-1

 

[Q™]

IPC-HDW5231R-ZE

Nice camera this one is...I got it from Andy.

 

[mat200]

I found this one -
IPC-HDW4231EM-ASE Dahua OEM 2MP IP Camera H.265 ePOE Starlight IR Mic IP67 IPC-HDW4231EM-ASE 2.8mm 6901021067758 | eBay

*Edit: Or this one seems more legit from Andy.
IPC-HDW5231R-ZE https://www.amazon.com/EmpireTech-IPC-HDW5231R-ZE-Starlight-Eyeball-Network/dp/B07B7K1P28/ref=sr_1_1?m=A329YQ83EBQGJF&s=merchant-items&ie=UTF8&qid=1544999688&sr=1-1

Hi @MrN1ce9uy

Andy should be able to get you either model, do feel free to drop him a note directly and let him know you're an IPCT member - if you go paypal you maybe able to save a little there also as Ali, Ebay, Amazon all take their cut.

Also note - the ebay seller is using slow shipping from China ( btw this is where the USPS gets hit as China is considered a developing country and gets the USPS basically to over the in-USA shipping costs ), so if you want slower shipping you may ask Andy for that option.

 

[looney2ns]

I found this one -
IPC-HDW4231EM-ASE Dahua OEM 2MP IP Camera H.265 ePOE Starlight IR Mic IP67 IPC-HDW4231EM-ASE 2.8mm 6901021067758 | eBay

*Edit: Or this one seems more legit from Andy.
IPC-HDW5231R-ZE https://www.amazon.com/EmpireTech-IPC-HDW5231R-ZE-Starlight-Eyeball-Network/dp/B07B7K1P28/ref=sr_1_1?m=A329YQ83EBQGJF&s=merchant-items&ie=UTF8&qid=1544999688&sr=1-1

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