WD Red died. Should I get WD Purple or Seagate Skyhawk ?

[Warptrooper]

One of my 3TB WD Reds (old CMR one) died. Tons of drive errors and milestone crapped out because of it. Not even able to change storage paths, having a lot of issues right now.

Thinking I should be using a surveillance grade drive yeah ?

 

[IAmATeaf]

How old was it and what sort of life did it have?

 

[Warptrooper]

How old was it and what sort of life did it have?

From 2003 but it was never really used just collecting dust until now

 

[weigle2]

From 2003 but it was never really used just collecting dust until now

Um, did you mean 2013? WD Red drives were first introduced in 2012 to fill the need for a NAS specific drive.

Tech Explained - WD Red Hard Drives

The hard drives for the discerning NAS user.

hexus.net

 

[kolbasz]

How much use did it have when you finally started using it

 

[Warptrooper]

How much use did it have when you finally started using it

Just 4 cameras about 32mbps combined bitrate.

EDIT: Actually just 2 cameras because I had other 2 cameras on other WD 3TB Red so only 14mbps

I ordered a 4TB WD Purple.

EDIT2: Cancelled order actually I'll just record everything to remaining 3TB Red. Lowered all the bitrates and FPS to 15.

 

[biggen]

I just bought an Exos X16 from Newegg for $370 shipped the other day when on sale.

 

[Warptrooper]

Ordered

I just bought an Exos X16 from Newegg for $370 shipped the other day when on sale.

And here I don't even wanna spend $160 on a 4TB lol

Tbh I just lowered bitrates on both 2431 to 4Mbps, 5442 to 6mbps and my 8MP 2385 to 8mbps

Pretty good quality at 15fps. Gonna just run it like this until my 2nd 3TB Red dies too (assuming it does)

 

[biggen]

I like looong retention times. I have four cams like you. Two record to an older 8 TB Barracuda while the other two record to the new Exos X16.

I can’t wait till the new HAMR drives come out and we start getting drives in the 20, 30, 40TB range.

 

[Warptrooper]

I like looong retention times. I have four cams like you. Two record to an older 8 TB Barracuda while the other two record to the new Exos X16.

I can’t wait till the new HAMR drives come out and we start getting drives in the 20, 30, 40TB range.

I never understood the need for a long retention time. At least not for my home use.

 

[biggen]

There is no downside to long retention times except skipping a couple nights out worth of eating dinner at a fancy restaurant to pay for drive(s).

 

[juliand]

I know these are expensive, but I still use many WD Black drives that are aging very well.
I started using purples for security videos. Like another said: you don't keep them long.

 

[fenderman]

I never understood the need for a long retention time. At least not for my home use.

It can be very valuable to have video well after the recorded date. For example if somebody alleges they tripped and fell on your property and you have evidence that proves otherwise.

 

[kolbasz]

I know these are expensive, but I still use many WD Black drives that are aging very well.
I started using purples for security videos. Like another said: you don't keep them long.

What do we consider long vs not long?

 

[handinpalm]

I never understood the need for a long retention time. At least not for my home use.

Don't you ever go on vacation or leave your home for 1 - 2+ weeks? Maybe something does come up unplanned where you need to leave. I want to see what happened when I return.

 

[Warptrooper]

Don't you ever go on vacation or leave your home for 1 - 2+ weeks? Maybe something does come up unplanned where you need to leave. I want to see what happened when I return.

Fair point but nah someone is always here. For me the setup was just a reaction to my new car getting broken into at night.

 

[wittaj]

I cannot tell you how many times I will be approached by a neighbor who asks if I have any footage from 2 weeks ago when their car was broken into and see if maybe the person walked past my property or something. You will learn to wish you had a longer retention!

 

[Warptrooper]

I cannot tell you how many times I will be approached by a neighbor who asks if I have any footage from 2 weeks ago when their car was broken into and see if maybe the person walked past my property or something. You will learn to wish you had a longer retention!

Already over budget for whole system so future drive I'll get a bigger one. Just using the remaining 3TB red I got left for now.

 

[Warptrooper]

Um, did you mean 2013? WD Red drives were first introduced in 2012 to fill the need for a NAS specific drive.

Tech Explained - WD Red Hard Drives

The hard drives for the discerning NAS user.

hexus.net

Yeah I meant 2013 oops lol
WD30EFRX. The good old CMR ones. One down one left.

 

[LauraYuan]

I just do not trust seagate... had a few fail in the past whereas, WD has been pretty reliable. Of course, I can't speak to the Seagate Skyhawk but I do use the WD purple. No issues yet.