Blue Iris UI3

looney2ns · Dec 13, 2022

ncpilot said:
"unable to display log file" "unable to connect to BI" was popping up a lot for me, sometimes a reboot of my tablet (primary viewing device) helped.

I went into the BI console and saw that the log file was quite large, when I cleared it, I could then see the log file on my tablet from UI3.

Is this a known issue? Log file too large to display?

Also disk usage stats sometimes are all crazy, clearing cache or rebooting on tablet usually fixes that issue...

Next time that UI3 shows what you think are the wrong disc stats, go directly to the Bi machine and look at what BI is reporting in the status window to see if they match.

ncpilot · Dec 13, 2022

Sorry, can't remember exact error... "unable to contact server" or something like that, otherwise, no problems viewing cams and event recordings (I can also view full camera list, could I do that if "unable to contact server"?). I rebooted the server, and tablet still wouldn't show log file, cleared log file thru BI console, and then the tablet showed the log file (using Chrome).

I get the disk status stuff, I know it's wrong on my tablet, it never shows over allocation on the console... but quite frequently shows over allocated on my tablet...

Maybe just a quirk of android?

looney2ns · Dec 13, 2022

ncpilot said:
Sorry, can't remember exact error... "unable to contact server" or something like that, otherwise, no problems viewing cams and event recordings (I can also view full camera list, could I do that if "unable to contact server"?). I rebooted the server, and tablet still wouldn't show log file, cleared log file thru BI console, and then the tablet showed the log file (using Chrome).

I get the disk status stuff, I know it's wrong on my tablet, it never shows over allocation on the console... but quite frequently shows over allocated on my tablet...

Maybe just a quirk of android?

Details matter, our crystal ball is on the fritz.
As long as the BI console does not show a problem, I ignore it.

jrbeddow · Dec 14, 2022

I'm on latest B.I. 5.6.6.0, and UI3 is acting a little odd on mobile devices recently: I just noticed today that timeline view always wants to jump to the nearest alert after scrolling the timeline. It will not allow me to continue playback from any arbitrary position on the timeline. This happens on Brave (Android) browser if that makes any difference, but I don't remember it behaving this way in the recent past. Works fine on Firefox on a desktop, BTW.
Can anyone else confirm this issue on mobile browsers?

looney2ns · Dec 14, 2022

jrbeddow said:
I'm on latest B.I. 5.6.6.0, and UI3 is acting a little odd on mobile devices recently: I just noticed today that timeline view always wants to jump to the nearest alert after scrolling the timeline. It will not allow me to continue playback from any arbitrary position on the timeline. This happens on Brave (Android) browser if that makes any difference, but I don't remember it behaving this way in the recent past. Works fine on Firefox on a desktop, BTW.
Can anyone else confirm this issue on mobile browsers?

bp2008 · Dec 14, 2022

jrbeddow said:
I'm on latest B.I. 5.6.6.0, and UI3 is acting a little odd on mobile devices recently: I just noticed today that timeline view always wants to jump to the nearest alert after scrolling the timeline. It will not allow me to continue playback from any arbitrary position on the timeline. This happens on Brave (Android) browser if that makes any difference, but I don't remember it behaving this way in the recent past. Works fine on Firefox on a desktop, BTW.
Can anyone else confirm this issue on mobile browsers?

You likely enabled "Skip dead-air during playback".

This setting exists both in Blue Iris Settings > Other tab, and in UI3's UI Settings > Timeline section. UI3 lets you override whatever was set in Blue Iris. You can also set this in UI3 via context menu (right-click or long press on touchscreen) on the timeline, or by clicking the little settings gear during timeline playback.

jrbeddow · Dec 14, 2022

bp2008 said:
You likely enabled "Skip dead-air during playback".

This setting exists both in Blue Iris Settings > Other tab, and in UI3's UI Settings > Timeline section. UI3 lets you override whatever was set in Blue Iris. You can also set this in UI3 via context menu (right-click or long press on touchscreen) on the timeline, or by clicking the little settings gear during timeline playback.

Ok, my bad, the "skip dead-air" was inadvertently turned on in UI3 settings. Head hung in shame for the dumb question, but thanks for the quick reply.

erkme73 · Dec 15, 2022

I have another observation. Running 226 on 5.6.5.9. All the tablets are using D2W and have buttery smooth live stream. However after about 12 hours, I start to get the orange clock indicating excessive delay in the browser. Looking at the stats for nerds, I'm seeing 22,000ms delays.

Is there a way to have the UI3 interface reload a given view when it detects the buildup of delayed playback? IOW, if the browser is able to detect the delay (i.e. clock shows up), then have it reload when delay gets to XXXms...

Interestingly ALL of the tablets have almost the same level of delay, so whatever is causing it, it's uniform.

ETA: Just to clarify, I'm using the h.264 profile which has been performing flawlessly in every other regard. I prefer it over the javascript.

hikky_b · Dec 15, 2022

erkme73 said:
I have another observation. Running 226 on 5.6.5.9. All the tablets are using D2W and have buttery smooth live stream. However after about 12 hours, I start to get the orange clock indicating excessive delay in the browser. Looking at the stats for nerds, I'm seeing 22,000ms delays.

Is there a way to have the UI3 interface reload a given view when it detects the buildup of delayed playback? IOW, if the browser is able to detect the delay (i.e. clock shows up), then have it reload when delay gets to XXXms...

Yes you can do this using the below in your overrides file: ui3-local-overrides.js

Source: Local Overrides Sample: Network Delay Triggers Video Restart · bp2008/ui3 Wiki

Code:

/ UI3 Local Overrides Sample - Network Delay Triggers Video Restart
var maximumNetworkDelay = 3000; / milliseconds
setInterval(function ()
{
    var h264_player = videoPlayer.GetPlayerObject();
    if (h264_player)
    {
        if (h264_player.GetNetworkDelay() > maximumNetworkDelay)
        {
            console.log("Refreshing video stream because of high network delay");
            videoPlayer.RefreshVideoStream();
        }
    }
}, 1000);

bp2008 · Dec 16, 2022

Yup, I've also noticed the delay grows on a raspberry pi 4 that I have continuously streaming a "d2w" stream. I haven't been able to figure out the cause of the delay yet. So that local overrides script is currently the best solution.

Just be sure to fix the two comment lines near the top if you copy the code out of the forum. The two comments should each have two of the / characters but the forum software here deletes one of them for some reason.

erkme73 · Dec 16, 2022

bp2008 said:
Yup, I've also noticed the delay grows on a raspberry pi 4 that I have continuously streaming a "d2w" stream. I haven't been able to figure out the cause of the delay yet. So that local overrides script is currently the best solution.

Just be sure to fix the two comment lines near the top if you copy the code out of the forum. The two comments should each have two of the / characters but the forum software here deletes one of them for some reason.

I will gladly play with the code, but am wondering if adding the option to auto reset up on max delay of xyz seconds in the settings wouldn't be a simply option for us non-coding users. ~~Since it's device specific, I will have to add that to each of the tablets, and since they are all isolated from the cloud, c/p the code to each is a bit of a challenge.~~

After some more thought, the overrides is on the server, correct? So that automatically propagates to each client? I'm definitely overthinking this.

erkme73 · Dec 16, 2022

Ok, I copied the UI3.js and .css files, renamed them to the ui3-local-overrides file name, emptied them, and copied the full delay code (including the double forward slant for the comment line). Do I need to do anything special to activate that? Or is simply refreshing the page on each client enough?

bp2008 · Dec 16, 2022

Refreshing the page should be sufficient.

erkme73 · Dec 16, 2022

bp2008 said:
Refreshing the page should be sufficient.

Working like a champ! Came home tonight and all four tablets were sub-3,000ms. No orange clock!

PatPend · Dec 18, 2022

This looks like a bug: after I upgraded to UI3 version 226, Blue Iris version: 5.6.6.1, my 90° rotated cameras appear without rotation when solo'd. They appear correctly in the "all cameras" view. Same on mobile or desktop browser. In the BI console they appear correctly (with rotation) when solo'd.

erkme73 · Dec 18, 2022

PatPend said:
This looks like a bug: after I upgraded to UI3 version 226, Blue Iris version: 5.6.6.1, my 90° rotated cameras appear without rotation when solo'd. They appear correctly in the "all cameras" view. Same on mobile or desktop browser. In the BI console they appear correctly (with rotation) when solo'd.

If the rotation is within Blue Iris and not the camera, then when ui3 uses direct 2 wire it will send you the unmanipulated image. It's always best in my opinion to rotate the camera within the camera's own interface

PatPend · Dec 18, 2022

erkme73 said:
If the rotation is within Blue Iris and not the camera, then when ui3 uses direct 2 wire it will send you the unmanipulated image. It's always best in my opinion to rotate the camera within the camera's own interface

I agree but this particular camera doesn't support image rotate. Any way to selectively disable direct to wire on certain cameras?

bp2008 · Dec 18, 2022

PatPend said:
I agree but this particular camera doesn't support image rotate. Any way to selectively disable direct to wire on certain cameras?

No explicit way. But if you can make those cameras send H.265 instead of H.264, then Blue Iris will not be able to use direct to wire with them.

erkme73 · Dec 18, 2022

bp2008 said:
Refreshing the page should be sufficient.

So is there a similar restart custom script for network delays? I seem to get it only on this camera after 5+ hours or so. All the other cameras are running near zero on network delay. They're all running off of the same AP (dedicated to the tablets). When I refresh the screen, or click off the camera and come back, it goes to zero, but if left on for half a day, it returns.

bp2008 · Dec 18, 2022

@erkme73 The given script actually only checks network delay.

I added an alternate version here which checks both delays: Local Overrides Sample: Network Delay Triggers Video Restart · bp2008/ui3 Wiki

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