Dahua Warranty and Source?

Elgato54

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I just purchased an Amcrest camera and it comes with a 1 year warranty. The Dahua version of the same camera comes with a 3 year warranty.

Dahua cameras often offer a three or five year warranty if you buy from an authorized seller.

Is it possible for individuals to purchase Dahua with a warranty and can anyone recommend a source?
 

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In the US, an official Dahua camera can cost 2 to 5 times or more than what we can purchase them for from Andy @EMPIRETECANDY here because the official US distributors want you to go through their professional installers or want you to buy in quantity, so we pay a premium markup. Neither of which most of us here want to do. Maybe some pockets of the US folks can get a good deal from an authorized Dahua dealer in the US, but most of us don't.

Further, any issues would have to go through the distributor and Dahua US will not talk to us. And for the few cameras we would be purchasing from a distributor, I doubt the customer service would be very good.

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How many people here in the US are saying they are getting great deals on Dahua cameras purchasing from authorized Dahua US dealers here?

How many with official US Dahua cameras are running firmware more recent than what Andy gets for us?

In my experience with electronics, they poop out immediately or within a year. Andy's warranty takes care of that and he showed it with a recent member here that was up on the 1 year and sent back a camera and Andy sent him a new one not some refurbished unit.

In a rare instance a camera poops out after one year, the initial savings I have from purchasing from Andy can buy me a newer camera and I still come out ahead...

The few times I have had a longer warranty on an electronic, it was a painful process and long and drawn out and then they send you a clearly refurbished product. For warranty, I want either my unit fixed or a brand new unit and not someone elses that broke and they fixed.

Your best bet is to buy from Andy here on his Amazon store or directly from him.


Loryta and Empiretech are Dahua OEM sold by Andy. Some of my cameras I have bought from Andy from his Amazon store come as Dahua cams in Dahua boxes with Dahua logos, and some are not logo'd - I think it depends on how many cameras Andy buys if he gets them with the Dahua Logo or not. But regardless, they are Dahua cams. If you get a camera that has Dahua on it, then the camera GUI will say Dahua; otherwise it will simply say IP Camera but looks identical except without the logo.

And the firmware we get from him is actually better because many members here provide feedback to Andy and then Dahua makes modifications to the firmware and sends back to him and then he sends out to his customers. These have been great improvements that Dahua doesn't even update their firmware and add to their website. So many of us are running a newer firmware than those that purchase Dahua cameras through professional installers. Smart IR on the 5442 series is one such improvement. Autotracking on the 49225 is another. Almost every other vendor the 49225 is not autotrack.

Regarding customer service from a manufacturer - we are not the user that Dahua and Hikvision is targeting so you will get the same service from either manufacturer (which is nonexistent). They have made a business decision to target the professional installers and authorized distributors of these cameras. I suspect many of them have been trained on all the settings or have installed enough to know what to do. But if you as an individual have an issue and call either company up for support and they will tell you to talk to the vendor you purchased from, if they even acknowledge you.

Contrast that with consumer grade stuff sold at the big box stores. You can call a Night Owl or Arlo or Reolink or Lorex or Amcrest or DLink or Google Nest or Ring and speak to a representative (now whether they can help you or not is another story), but they will not tell you to talk to Best Buy where you purchased it...and several of these cost the same or more as Dahua or Hikvision...

We are just fortunate enough to be able to get our hands on these brands.

So it comes down to vendor reputation and taking care of their customers and for the majority of us, @EMPIRETECANDY does that.
 
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To accurately answer your question is NO you will get NO SUPPORT from Dahua if purchased from a Non Authorised Seller

Here in Uk if you purchase from an authorised Dahua seller you will get a 3 to 5 years warranty on Dahua camera's ( NO QUIBBLE ) next day exchange 24hrs and a 24/7 remote assistance support if needed. Also you need to factor in firmware updates for Grey Imports can differ a lot between Authorised Support.

You need to make your own mind up to pay a little extra from an "Authorised seller" and get FULL warranty & Support or buy from a unauthorised Seller who would never advertise on a forum or amazon or AliExpress and get ZERO SUPPORT only their own sellers warranty.
 

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@ljw2k - you didn't learn your lesson the last time about Dahua pricing that on this side of the pond the pricing is much different than over there LOL....are you trying to relive that thread where you ended up deleting most of your posts when others validated the costing scheme in the US LOL :lmao:

As others have attested, in the US it is more than "a little extra" to purchase a Dahua from an authorized seller.

Interesting though that many here have got support from Andy in addition to his warranty...I know I have got support from him when a firmware update went wonky. And it is clear that Andy gets more recent firmware updates than what is available on the Dahua website. I also provided the link to Dahua US warranty procedures that is significantly different than your side of the pond.

Considering the OP is in Arizona and not the UK, how Dahua operates in your country isn't relevant to how Dahua operates here. Just like your tons of night time light and big @$$ license plates we are jealous of, you get Dahua cams for about what you can purchase them from Andy. Over here that is not the case.

As you are aware, we are not the Dahua target audience and as such we do not get end-user support from them here. In the US, if you were an installer purchasing in bulk and installing and servicing them, that is their target audience. So we rely on forums like this to help each other out!

Personally, the advice and help I have got on this forum far exceeds any support I have ever had on any electronic. In most instances, the person I am talking to on the other end knows even less about their product than I do... Back before I knew better and bought an all-in-one camera kit from a big box store, the person I was talking to for support clearly had no idea how the NVR worked and it had to escalate up 4 layers and still then I think I knew more about their product than they did.
 
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@ljw2k - you didn't learn your lesson the last time about Dahua pricing that on this side of the pond the pricing is much different than over there LOL....are you trying to relive that thread where you ended up deleting most of your posts when others validated the costing scheme in the US LOL :lmao:

As others have attested, in the US it is more than "a little extra" to purchase a Dahua from an authorized seller.

Interesting though that many here have got support from Andy in addition to his warranty...

As you are aware, we are not the Dahua target audience and as such we do not get end-user support from them. In the US, if you were an installer purchasing in bulk and installing and servicing them, that is their target audience. So we rely on forums like this to help each other out!

Personally, the advice and help I have got on this forum far exceeds any support I have ever had on any electronic. In most instances, the person I am talking to on the other end knows even less about their product than I do...
Learned my lesson LMFAO you need to read the post again... Elgato54 post was about Warranty NOT price matching and like me this matters when purchasing expensive items, Just because the op is in the USA the reply remains the same if he was in Africa or Mozambique or Poland or USA he will get ZERO manufactures warranty or support from a NON Authorised Seller.

What I will recommend to the sellers question is have a look into making a trade account with some USA Authorised Sellers which is not that hard especially if you have a trade or any friends with a trade at least this this way he can get full Manufactures warranty & support and in my case cheaper than Grey Imports.
 
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Learned my lesson LMFAO you need to read the post again... Elgato54 post was about Warranty NOT price matching and like me this matters when purchasing expensive items, Just because the op is in the USA the reply remains the same if he was in Africa or Mozambique or Poland or USA he will get ZERO manufactures warranty or support from a NON Authorised Seller.

What I will state to the sellers question is have a look into making a trade account with some USA Authorised Sellers which is not that hard especially if you have a trade or any friends with a trade at least this this way he can get full Manufactures warranty & support and in my case cheaper than Grey Imports.
True, but here warranty and pricing go hand-in-hand. If I can get a 5 year warranty on anything, but it cost me 5 times as much to purchase that product than it does to go with an OEM that is 1/5 the cost, I will take my chances. If I get 3 years out of it, I am still better off. If I get 5 years, even better. Only after purchasing the 6th item in 5 years do I lose in that scenario.

Several of my cameras I have purchased from Andy came in Dahua boxes and Dahua logos on the cameras and Dahua logo'd firmware. At that point it isn't grey as you say...

As I said in the other thread, many product lines in the US have manufacturer reps and territories and someone else cannot set up shop on the product line within another's territory. I have no idea if that is the case with DahuaUS, but it wouldn't surprise me. And if that is the case, setting up a trade account may not be possible. If I were a Dahua rep and had a defined territory (and thus a monopoly in the area), why would I offer someone a trade account and then they go sell in another territory and risk losing my defined territory by DahuaUS. If the person in my territory wants Dahua cams, they can pay the same as everyone else. I have had friends in other industries that were manufacturer reps for lucrative product lines and defined territories and they would do whatever it took to keep that product line, including lawsuits against other reps for stepping past the territory line.

One would think if it were that easy to get a trade account in the US and Dahua cams with the 5 year warranty over here cheaper than we can purchase from the Andy's of the world, word would have got out about that...
 

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I'm not trying to cause arguments here with You or Andy I just wanted to let the thread starter aware he can go another way which myself went a long time ago and never turned back. I think you look at pricing & warranty go hand in hand but not everyone is you.
I can say that I am 100% certain that the camera's you have purchased from Andy Logo or no Logo has ZERO manufactures warranty and maybe Andy would like to comment on this if I am wrong!.

I am not suggesting setting up shop to get a trade account and no need to do that neither as you wouldn't be stepping on anyone else's " territory " as their must be 1000's of electrical engineers in your town alone unless you are out in the sticks to speak. I know USA is different in pricing to UK as I have found it ALWAYS cheaper than UK but shipping is way to high at the moment which it would make uneconomical for me to buy from USA. Not sure How China Ship some items so cheap they must have very good accountants!!

To get back on course the Op asked a warranty question I replied.
 

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The US is apparently more competitive than the UK lol. Comparing electrical engineers that provide a service to purchasing a product is not an equal comparison.

Question, do you get endless calls from telemarketers about extending your car warranty in the UK? There are so many after market warranties available to us here as well if someone is so inclined to pay for it...

You cannot walk out of a big box store here buying an electronic without being offered an additional warranty for a small fee...

I know that my cameras purchased from Andy that are Dahua logo do not come with a manufacturer's warranty and I am fine with that, as is any reasonable person purchasing them from Andy.

I always turn it down, but when you purchase from Amazon you can add a 3 year warranty to Andy's cams (or about any electronic for that matter)...so for less than 20 bucks one could close that gap even more.

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I still think if we could get a trade account here to get a DahuaUS camera with 5 year warranty and support for the same price as we could get from Andy, don't you think someone here would have done that and shared that information? This site is about helping each other with questions and settings and where to buy, etc., so if someone found a way to get it cheaper, I think it would be commonplace here or on Reddit LOL.

I know you freely share that to folks on this forum that live on your side of the pond and have helped them get the same arrangement/deal you can. Most of us stand down when someone from the UK asks the question on where to purchase because you will fill them on how to get the best deal in your country...
 
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I can say that I am 100% certain that the camera's you have purchased from Andy Logo or no Logo has ZERO manufactures warranty and maybe Andy would like to comment on this if I am wrong!.
No, you are correct. And we all know that. But it does come with a warranty from the seller.

Who cares if it is a "manufacturer's" warranty or a seller's warranty? I have felt very safe buying from Andy.

Now if you are talking about the gray market, Chinese Aliexpress vendors, I can understand that. I would not expect any response for warranty work from those guys.
 

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Attention guys we sell EmpireTech cams and nvrs now. So we sure undertake all warranty issues, Buy cheaper and has 2 years warranty not bad.
most guys buy IPC-HDW5231R-Z from 2016, right now still can beat down 80% cam on the market, and they are still working very well.
For cheap cams we also do replacement directly. Sometimes even no need to return the defective items.
The forum is for people search and buy the right device at reasonable price.
By the way, The LJK always right people here know him well!!!
 

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@IAmATeaf - yes we did which is why I asked if a certain poster didn't learn his lesson about the costing differences between the US and the UK and once others validated what I said he deleted half his posts in that thread... :lmao:

Wow you are from the UK and didn't set up a trade account.....
 

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@wittaj Couldn't really be bothered to pretend that I was an installer to be honest and some of the models that Andy sells aren't that freely available through the authorised dealers here in the UK.

Shocking as it may sound, I also buy stuff from AliExpress so just call be an uber risk taker :eek:
 

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The Ops Thread was in regards to Dahua Warranty not what the price cost. A genuine manufactures warranty is sometimes more important to buyers than £££££.
 

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And we have made it abundantly clear that in the US, these warranties comes at a cost. Plus there is a very lucrative after market warranty industry that many manufacturers take part in, so they will try to sell that and not offer a long warranty period in order to sell more extended warranties...

If I buy a car, I can buy an extended warranty from the dealer or I can wait for my phone to ring with telemarketers offering me 3rd party extended warranties.

If I buy a new car battery for $200 and get a 36 month warranty and the battery dies at 35 months, guess what it is a pro-rated warranty so I get $5.55 to apply towards a new battery.

If I buy an electronic on Amazon, I can purchase for a small fee an additional warranty anywhere from 1 to 5 years depending on what I am purchasing.

If I buy an electronic at Best Buy or MicroCenter or some other big box store, the associate will offer me the ability to purchase an extended warranty for a small fee.

If I build a house, it comes with a 1 year builder warranty. I am sure anyone that built a home wishes that came with a longer warranty period...

If I am selling my 50 year old house, I can purchase a multi-year warranty to entice a potential buyer to purchase my home instead of another home.

If it cost me $1,000 to buy a Dahua camera from an authorized US dealer with a 5 year warranty, but I can buy the same exact camera for $200 from the Andy's of the world with their one year warranty and add $20 on Amazon to extend it to 3 years, why would I pay 5 times the amount for the same product? In my experience, an electronic either poops out immediately or when it does it is such old technology at that time that I would want newer anyway.

Dahua obviously has bean counters that have determined their cameras are quality built to last at least 5 years and that is how warranty times are determined...they would not offer a 5 year warranty if 90% of their product was replaced under warranty in 5 years....so I will take my chances paying 1/5 the cost that I am getting product likely to exceed the manufacturer warranty whether I get said warranty or not.. Like I said, only after purchasing the 6th replacement item in 5 years do I come out at a loss. Many here are running cameras they bought the moment Andy went in business.

If we could set up a racket like you are able to do in the UK and be able to purchase Dahua cams with 5 year warranties cheaper than we can get a camera from Andy, don't you think people here would have done that? Wouldn't that have made the rounds here and on Reddit and social media sites?

There is a cost associated with a warranty and it is reflected in the purchase price. They are mutually exclusive. How hard is it to understand that....
 
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Does anyone know anything about the Ebay seller Hitechbay? Lots of Dahua and Hikvision and he says they come with a 3 year warranty.
 

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Does anyone know anything about the Ebay seller Hitechbay? Lots of Dahua and Hikvision and he says they come with a 3 year warranty.
just buy from Andy and be done with it...

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Does anyone know anything about the Ebay seller Hitechbay? Lots of Dahua and Hikvision and he says they come with a 3 year warranty.
Where on Hitechbay Ebay site does it say a 3-year warranty? I see you can add on a 3 year protection plan, which you can do from Andy's Amazon store as well. And with Amazon you can send back and return free. Hitechbay you are responsible for sending back returns.

What is interesting is if you look at the bottom left there are check boxes and one of them is "authorized seller" and when you check that, none of the cameras come up. That tells me it isn't the manufacturer warranty and this person is simply another Andy of the world and this persons prices are higher than Andy's and delivery time is longer. Get it in 2-3 days from Andy. I doubt this guy has the relationships with Dahua either - ask him if he gets custom firmware from Dahua based on his customers feedback.

It also says "Import duty, tax or charge are not included in the item price or shipping charge. These charges are the buyer responsibility. Please check with your country customs office to determine what these costs will be prior to buying/bidding." And many these appear to be coming from China, so you will have those costs as well to add on to the purchase price.

I agree with @flynreelow and go with Andy.
 
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