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Oh so near but so far @klasipca: http://szjco.en.alibaba.com/product/60344943707-801758979/H_265_IP66_level_waterproof_bullet_camera_ptz_5mp_camera_for_star_light.html I wonder what the obstacle might be to add optical zoom to this camera?

@klasipca, @ruppmeister & @jimg - Their price list seems to be way ahead of their webmaster, and I have made the point that it is confusing and to get it sorted out, but I'm not holding my breath. The thing i'm trusting (confirmed by Enya) is my invoice: 1/1.8" SONY Low Illumination 5MP CMOS...

I have a full price list and spec sheet from acesee if anyone is interested or you could just email enya@acesee.cn.

Clarified with Enya, in fact upgraded to AVEN60H500 to get better ir range. Trigger pulled, hope it's as good as promised when it arrives.

@ruppmeister - Yep, went through all that with them online, they confirmed it has the same sensor and processor as the S500. It seems to be a Longse cam as the pro-forma invoice is for logse.com @klasipca - They do have AVEN60H500 on their site, and if the specs are related to the the H500...

Has anyone got any experience of the ACESEE AVEN40H500? Seems to be a version of the S500 being discussed here but under the ACESEE branding and is a varifocal: http://gzacesee.en.alibaba.com/product/60386860562-801958174/IP66_waterproof_H_265_support_outdoor_5mp_ip_camera.html

@nayr - I'm liking the way you think, IR floods plus dark, sharp obstacles carelessly placed at perimeters . . .

@Snappyip I had already run power and a couple of lines of cat5 down to the gate posts, just need to get the electric gates ordered as this is a soft entry/exit. They wankers came across fields though, saved them having to go past the house. Could you send a link to the IR alarm sensors? I'm...

@riceandbeans, Ii have taken that on board, I like learning from others, made enough mistakes myself for others to learn from! I have got one very basic varifocal IP cam, one fixed wide-angle, making all the assessments now on the placements needed to cover all the points of ingress, but there...

Solid advice there Kawboy12R, made me think about the plot. Thinking that IR Floods might be a good idea over white light as I live out in the country for the lack of light pollution, any views or considerations for me to chew over? In danger of contradicting myself, but thinking that white...

Thanks Fenderman, already looking at the alarm system. On that thought, is it useful to have cameras that link into the alarm system?

So, there it is one more for the "isn't hindsight wonderful" pile. It was only my workshop but they took thousands of pounds worth of tools, just thankful they didn't try the house. Have got over the part where I swear a lot but mostly feel helpless, now I just want my family and I to feel...