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ha all right, I have access to ingram via work and the cost of 2.8mm DS-2CD2332 is $185 ex or $193 ex for 4mm (prices are in aud) - it make you laugh when you consider these guys will be purchasing for less then ali sellers for identical product but add on 200% australia tax plus gst and wonder...

Interesting - some of the ebay sellers also look to have dropped off which I were following here in Australia. I was purchasing camera's from Ali because of lack of decent distributors here in Australia who are not out to rip you off and make a quick dollar.