How reduce HDD image disturbs, lines appear on video when HDD write, on Dahua XVR

GiovanniG

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May 18, 2021
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Hi, I would discuss with you solutions ro reduce this annoying effect.

Since I put the DVR on the same 12V of cameras (and it should be that, since I'm using a big battery 12V to keep system always on) on some cameras (depending on the leght of cable, model, and maybe some other factors) appear those annoying lines when the HDD records, this is for sure an RF noise, catched by ground loop between DVR negative pole, camera's negative pole and shield of coaxial cables. I think it happens worse, when I use cat5e cabels and baluns, since the signal pair runs in touch with other 3 pairs that I use for 12V, and betwwen baluns there also are difference Dahua's filter better noise then others.

To resuce it I've wrapped some coil on a small thoroid, half for positive pole, half for negative, wth the same direction. Alternatively, to spare some time, I've started the process with 2 segments of enameled wire and covered all thoroid, to get the same result. Two ceramic capacitors of 0,22uF 50V at both sides complete the circuit. I've put it on the DVR power line, both + and - wires.

Effectively I reduced them in this way, but on one system they still present, do you have better solutions? I'm guessing if it can be better to filter the HDD power only, but it this way I'll ruin the DVR power adapter and eventually can be not good for guarantee, but I feel I need to try that.
I suppose it depends on the model of HDD, with some (Seagate VX) it may be stronger, for sure with Hikvision DVR I've never had such problem, so for sure this problem is related only with Dahua XVR, unfortunately.
Thank you for your contribute
 
Are you grounding the shields on both ends of the cables? That's asking for a ground loop IMO.
 
Are you grounding the shields on both ends of the cables? That's asking for a ground loop IMO.
Your question is proper, no. I'm ground the shield of FTP cable only on the recorder side, on both sides 3 wires are joined for minus, 3 wires for plus, this eventually can result on loop, but I have examples where there are no clicks.. or very light ones, this as I say may vary from XVR (maybe), baluns and camera type. I'm gonna try to cut the shield of cable and see the difference.

Anyway why I'm writing here, is to suppress the souce of noise, so I'll be glad to read some possible solution, if anyone had find one. Thank you
 
This time I've tried to instert an heavy inductance on the +12v of HDD line, with 100nF capacitors on on put and output, and also an 1000uF 16V capacitor on output, let's see.
The 12V HDD is directly connected to the DVR 12V jack, that's also weird when the power supply charges a battery to 13,5V, it overpower the HDD. I'm usng a D/DC with very low dropout to stabilize voltage around 12V. On the other hand, when the battery discharge it and go lower 10,5V the HDD may stop, while the DVR not, and when the power goes back there will be no records.
Having a huge battery to backup a DVR+cameras is a big advantage respect using classical UPS, but has some bad sides