Terminating incoming cat cable - socket or crimp ?

[John Joseph]

Hi,

So I will have an incoming cat cable from a camera mounted outside, coming into the wall at the height the camera will be at (about 6.5/7 feet)

What’s the tidiest way of handling this cable internally ? Come into a blanking plate, out into trunking on the bottom of the plate, and down into a socket ?

Or is there a better way ? I figured terminating into a socket would be easier than crimping.

 

[Silas]

Under normal circumstances you would terminate with the rj45, the less breaks in the line the better, BUT the answer would depend on what you have or intend to do in the future, switch, patch panel etc for future growth, either way leave as much on the end as you can until you know the answer.

 

[bababouy]

Use a keystone jack with a wallplate. If you come into the existing wall at 6.5 feet, I would drop down the wall to the same height as your power receptacles and install a low voltage bracket , unless you are enter behind a TV. What Are Keystone Jacks?

 

[John Joseph]

Here’s a pic of what needs to come through the wall .. so do I cut it before the splitter? Then terminate both a RJ45 and a DC into a wall plate ?

 

[tigerwillow1]

I think you're misunderstanding. I doubt that anybody is seriously suggesting you cut off the camera's attached connectors, but rather discussing termination of the cable you run from the nvr/switch to the camera.

 

[bababouy]

or the jumper cable that goes from the camera to the keystone jack

 

[John Joseph]

The cable from the switch can’t connect direct to camera, without me drilling a massive hole to fit the prefixed connectors through. I obviously don’t want to do that, so what I’m asking here is that the only way I can think to connect this camera is to cut at the splitter, feed cable through, and either crimp an RJ45 and a DC on the internal side, and run that direct cable to the switch or terminate them in a wall plate and then connect from the wall plate to the switch.

 

[SkyLake]

Put the pigtail of the camera in a junction box. Either with a pre-made box that fits your camera, or with a outdoor junction box from home depot etc etc.

At camera side, you terminate a RJ45 connector on the ethernet cable that goes into the junction box. From there you either terminate the cable from going in the wall into a wall socket, rj45 connector or a patch panel.

Camera -> camera's pigtail in junction box -> cable -> hole in wall -> rj45, wall socket, patch panel..etc etc

Your choice

 

[bababouy]

I must have misread that one

 

[John Joseph]

I had thought about doing an outside junction box, however my only concern is that given the camera height is easily accessible it would be easy to just snip the exposed cable between cam and junction box. I’d prefer to have no visible wiring to mitigate that, I guess I could always put an SD card in as backup storage incase the network cable is cut but then I’d also need to then provide power to it as the PoE wouldnhave been killed.

 

[bababouy]

I had thought about doing an outside junction box, however my only concern is that given the camera height is easily accessible it would be easy to just snip the exposed cable between cam and junction box. I’d prefer to have no visible wiring to mitigate that, I guess I could always put an SD card in as backup storage incase the network cable is cut but then I’d also need to then provide power to it as the PoE wouldnhave been killed.

The idea of using a junction box is to mount the camera on the junction box so that there are no exposed wires and the junction of the camera pigtail and your cat5e cable are protected from the elements.

 

[TonyR]

+1 to what @bababouy said. Only a 3/8" hole for cable required, mount the cam on a box, as here ==>> Bullet Camera Mounting Box

The cable can come through the rear of the box, preventing the cable from being exposed. You could also utilize a passive POE injector as I did in the pictures and your wall wart power supply for the cam will be plugged in indoors.

 

[John Joseph]

Right OK, so this way you feed the unterminated / endless cable through from the internal side, and terminate it outside into a connector to the camera ?

 

[bababouy]

correct-a-mundo

 

[John Joseph]

Great, thanks
The last piece of the puzzle is how to tidy up that cable on the inside.. I can think of 3 options

1. Mount a faceplate at the height the cable goes out to the camera, and have a cable plugged into that running loose down the wall into the switch
2. Mount a faceplate at typical socket level, with a cable connected from the switch into it, and run trunking from the faceplate up to the hole and out into the camera
3. Just have the cable connected directly from the switch straight out into the camera.

 

[TonyR]

I take it that you cannot run cable vertically inside the wall like this: indoors mount a faceplate with keystone RJ-45 female at height same as your wall outlets, run vertically inside the wall with the cable and then out through the wall, at camera height, directly into a box that covers the hole, houses the cam's pigtail and allows the cam to be mounted onto the box's lid.

Inside you could hide the patch cable that is plugged into the wall jack with Wiremold's white, paintable vinyl molding, like ==>> this.

 

[blake]

Here is a trick to run vertical in your walls. If you have trim moldings running around the bottom of your walls, you can use a trim puller to remove it run your cat cables in the space behind it. Sometimes the sheetrock Installers don't run the sheetrock all the way to the foundation. If they did you can trim the sheetrock enough to get cables behind it and put the trim molding back up.