Triggering alarm on Active Deterrence cameras based on stranger-mode alarm on perimeter cameras

[Dimas]

Hi all!

I'd like to setup a security system on our property that would work in stranger detection mode (always on). The idea is to have perimeter cameras have face recognition functionality and if a stranger is detected, sound alarm at the house (have Dahau Active Deterrence cameras already installed on the house itself, would like to activate their built-in siren and lights). Is this achievable without spending an inordinate amount of money? Are there options other than Dahau NVRs with FR and their FR-on-board cameras? How well would it work with Blue Iris + CodeProject.AI?

Thanks!

 

[Mark_M]

Blue Iris and other VMS solutions would work.
The TiOC cameras have API to arm/disarm and activate the siren & lights.

 

[wittaj]

Keep in mind that most of us have found that facial identification is more gimmicky and novelty than anything else. If you have to put in 5 or 10 or 15 or 35 pictures or more of yourself in the system for it to recognize it is you...then you shouldn't expect much.... My success rate was under 5% so I moved on to other things LOL. YMMV

It can work in certain situations like a business that requires everyone to stop in front of the camera and the camera is at head height. Outside of that, the percentage of being accurate is probably not going to be super high. You will get a lot of false "confirmations" doing a search.

Someone here posted once how horrible it was inside his house identifying his neighbors and others as him. Another guy his kids and wife were being tagged as him inside the house.

Unless you spend the big bucks that casinos and airports have LOL.

As always YMMV and some here use it and say it is acceptable for their use case. Based on my experience I wouldn't use it for sending off audible alarms.

Heck even in ideal situations like a business with the camera at ideal height and optimal lighting it fails....

What do you think of Dahua's "Uyghur Warnings"?

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[Dimas]

Thanks. Was that with Dahau's own FR, CodeProject.AI, other software?
Seems like it ought to be possible with enough computing power. Google Photos in my experience pretty rarely fails to recognize, even babies When are we going to get that in non-million-dollar home security systems?

Keep in mind that most of us have found that facial identification is more gimmicky and novelty than anything else. If you have to put in 5 or 10 or 15 or 35 pictures or more of yourself in the system for it to recognize it is you...then you shouldn't expect much.... My success rate was under 5% so I moved on to other things LOL. YMMV

It can work in certain situations like a business that requires everyone to stop in front of the camera and the camera is at head height. Outside of that, the percentage of being accurate is probably not going to be super high. You will get a lot of false "confirmations" doing a search.

Someone here posted once how horrible it was inside his house identifying his neighbors and others as him. Another guy his kids and wife were being tagged as him inside the house.

Unless you spend the big bucks that casinos and airports have LOL.

As always YMMV and some here use it and say it is acceptable for their use case. Based on my experience I wouldn't use it for sending off audible alarms.

Heck even in ideal situations like a business with the camera at ideal height and optimal lighting it fails....

What do you think of Dahua's "Uyghur Warnings"?

Good luck. Wish you no ill will. I'm not here to argue with people simply to contribute when and where I can. This is also followed by lending my views on current technology and how it impacts all of us. It's undisputed that splitting of the atom changed the world but once again man decided to...

ipcamtalk.com

 

[wittaj]

Thanks. Was that with Dahau's own FR, CodeProject.AI, other software?
Seems like it ought to be possible with enough computing power. Google Photos in my experience pretty rarely fails to recognize, even babies When are we going to get that in non-million-dollar home security systems?

All of the above. People have seen it with camera face recognition, Deepstack, and CodeProject. It is getting closer, but still way too many issues to want to use it reliably.

Google is bigger than your top of the line computer with latest and greatest GPU lol - also it doesn't have to recognize it under 1 or 2 seconds like what is needed for surveillance camera purposes LOL.

Sure you can send the images to google and have it recognize and all that there for after the fact, but it isn't to the point of using it for real time facial recognition in a security system.