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What are steps of setting up sophos and pfsense - has anyone here done a step by step guide with some GUI screen shots showing some features of each?

And do yo have it working with your asus router/openvpn setup?

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I use pfsense with pfblockerng (their adblocking package). I couldn't imagine a home network without ip/domain filtering at the router.
 

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I use pfsense with pfblockerng (their adblocking package). I couldn't imagine a home network without ip/domain filtering at the router.
Thanks for sharing and making this your first post :) That setup sounds great. Are you doing it with linux setup or can it be done with a windows10 comp?

I was hoping to add detail myself as I learn from other sites how to setup pfSense.
 

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Thanks for sharing and making this your first post :) That setup sounds great. Are you doing it with linux setup or can it be done with a windows10 comp?

I was hoping to add detail myself as I learn from other sites how to setup pfSense.
I bought a used rack mountable server from eBay with pfsense already on it and that serves as the router/firewall.

It's a little complicated to set up - you are probably better off with a standard Netgear/Linksys router and then if adding something like pihole to block malicious domains.

I am not sure running a 3rd party software firewall on your local machine makes a ton of sense - if you just use windows defender on your windows machine and use pihole or pfblockerng on the router and use a DNS resolver like adguard or quad9s it's going to be really hard for you to get a virus. Not impossible, but pretty hard. Filtering malicious domains/ips at the router/dns level is important imo.
 

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I bought a used rack mountable server from eBay with pfsense already on it and that serves as the router/firewall.
You really should re-think this, and just do a fresh install of pfSense. There is some HUGE issues with people selling pre-loaded pfSense boxes with backdoors built in. Over on the pfSense forums there were several people that got bitten by this and had major problems down the line. Its so bad they they are even considering a DRM type solution for verifying the software load

Installing pfsense is very, very simple
 

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I bought a used rack mountable server from eBay with pfsense already on it and that serves as the router/firewall.

It's a little complicated to set up - you are probably better off with a standard Netgear/Linksys router and then if adding something like pihole to block malicious domains.

I am not sure running a 3rd party software firewall on your local machine makes a ton of sense - if you just use windows defender on your windows machine and use pihole or pfblockerng on the router and use a DNS resolver like adguard or quad9s it's going to be really hard for you to get a virus. Not impossible, but pretty hard. Filtering malicious domains/ips at the router/dns level is important imo.
Thanks. I've seen pihole discussions a lot. A lot there to look into to help create a more secure connection.


You really should re-think this, and just do a fresh install of pfSense. There is some HUGE issues with people selling pre-loaded pfSense boxes with backdoors built in. Over on the pfSense forums there were several people that got bitten by this and had major problems down the line. Its so bad they they are even considering a DRM type solution for verifying the software load

Installing pfsense is very, very simple
Thanks. It was my first question when seeing that it was purchased from 3rd party vs installed fresh. I feel anyone can insert something and activate it later down the line.

Side note: What are thoughts of something very easy out of box that has 1 step vpn setup and says it removes adware prior to getting to you - example:
Firewalla: Cybersecurity Firewall For Your Family and Business
 

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You really should re-think this, and just do a fresh install of pfSense. There is some HUGE issues with people selling pre-loaded pfSense boxes with backdoors built in. Over on the pfSense forums there were several people that got bitten by this and had major problems down the line. Its so bad they they are even considering a DRM type solution for verifying the software load

Installing pfsense is very, very simple
That's what I did - this box has 6 ports, hot swappable HD,, etc and it was 4 years ago and was way easier than building my own. I think there are trusted dealers now selling smaller form factor hardware but at the time it was the easiest thing to do.
 

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Thanks. I've seen pihole discussions a lot. A lot there to look into to help create a more secure connection.




Thanks. It was my first question when seeing that it was purchased from 3rd party vs installed fresh. I feel anyone can insert something and activate it later down the line.

Side note: What are thoughts of something very easy out of box that has 1 step vpn setup and says it removes adware prior to getting to you - example:
Firewalla: Cybersecurity Firewall For Your Family and Business
that thing is tiny and can't handle a very big load I wouldn't think. At the very least I would use securedns.eu, nextdns.io or some other malware blocking dns. That + windows defender with active updates is going to be pretty good and basically free.
 

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Anyone have their suggestions between Sophos UTM 9 vs XG vs pfSense?
 

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Anyone have their suggestions between Sophos UTM 9 vs XG vs pfSense?
You should consider Untangle as well. I am a former Sophos user. I switched to Untangle 4 years ago and never looked back. I have Untangle appliances running at several of my customer sites as well as at my house and in my colo space (provided by my employer).


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You should consider Untangle as well. I am a former Sophos user. I switched to Untangle 4 years ago and never looked back. I have Untangle appliances running at several of my customer sites as well as at my house and in my colo space (provided by my employer).


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I used untangle for a few years - They have subscriptions and some free stuff too. My main problem was the Java interface seemed clunky. It may be better now. Not sure what dns filtering capabilities it has but untangle has been in active development for a long time and should be pretty good. I just found the interface unbearable.
 

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I used untangle for a few years - They have subscriptions and some free stuff too. My main problem was the Java interface seemed clunky. It may be better now. Not sure what dns filtering capabilities it has but untangle has been in active development for a long time and should be pretty good. I just found the interface unbearable.
The Untangle interface has gotten better in recent updates, namely with version 13. The free offerings have decreased, but are still good enough for basic UTM functions. They have a home offering for $50/year, which unlocks the full functionality.


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You should consider Untangle as well. I am a former Sophos user. I switched to Untangle 4 years ago and never looked back. I have Untangle appliances running at several of my customer sites as well as at my house and in my colo space (provided by my employer).


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Nice, learning a lot from their site and write-ups they have.

I used untangle for a few years - They have subscriptions and some free stuff too. My main problem was the Java interface seemed clunky. It may be better now. Not sure what dns filtering capabilities it has but untangle has been in active development for a long time and should be pretty good. I just found the interface unbearable.
I was going to ask - this is what it basically looks like:
Untangle
 

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I use pfsense with pfblockerng (their adblocking package). I couldn't imagine a home network without ip/domain filtering at the router.
Agreed. Ideally you want to filter traffic where & when it enters home network at the router/entry level if possible. It adds your first layer of defence.

My set up uses ASUS router with Skynet firewall installed on the router. Cameras & Blue Iris PC blocked from having any internet access whatsoever, standard windows firewall, VPN Server on router. I can still remote in & view cameras.

It took awhile to get it working but it's worth it.
 

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Agreed. Ideally you want to filter traffic where & when it enters home network at the router/entry level if possible. It adds your first layer of defence.

My set up uses ASUS router with Skynet firewall installed on the router. Cameras & Blue Iris PC blocked from having any internet access whatsoever, standard windows firewall, VPN Server on router. I can still remote in & view cameras.

It took awhile to get it working but it's worth it.
Sounds good. I am in process of trying to get something more secure and will report back. How did you set it up to know pc/bi has no internet access at all?
 

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How did you set it up to know pc/bi has no internet access at all?
Testing it by trying to access internet with it ie using browser, pinging & more but also using router to monitor any possible network usage.

I use a PC that has full internet & camera access, but it's only turned on when I'm using it, configured to access the BI PC if/when required. There's probably other ways to do it though.
 

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Testing it by trying to access internet with it ie using browser, pinging & more but also using router to monitor any possible network usage.

I use a PC that has full internet & camera access, but it's only turned on when I'm using it, configured to access the BI PC if/when required. There's probably other ways to do it though.
With help here I was able to setup Dahua cams on 1 NIC so it should have no gateway internet access. Is there a way to test to make sure they are not accessing the internet at all?
 

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With help here I was able to setup Dahua cams on 1 NIC so it should have no gateway internet access. Is there a way to test to make sure they are not accessing the internet at all?
I believe that you can run a ping test from within the camera UI. I believe that it’s under the network portion. You can just ping 8.8.8.8 to see if it can get out to the internet. Conversely, you could also set up SMTP on the camera and use gmail or outlook.com to see if you can successfully send a test email.


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