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Changed to openVpn but,

When I connect via OpenVpn on android phone, I only see connection stats on a moving chart.
How do I then get to see Blue Iris?
 
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Changed to openVpn but,

When I connect via OpenVpn on android phone, I only see connection stats on a moving chart.
How do I then get to see Blue Iris?
I suppose that that moving chart is the bandwidth meter of OpenVPN? Well, you leave the OpenVPN app for what it is, and switch to the UI of BI like you would do without the VPN. You'd notice a small box [VPN] in your status bar, indicating your VPN tunnel is active.
Easy peasy :)
 

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Thanks, but are you talking about UI of BI on my home computer?
I see no box like that. I am running Vers 5 of BI.
or do you mean BlueIris android app?
 
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Thanks, but are talking about UI of BI on my home computer?
I see no box like that. I am running Vers 5 of BI.
OK, revert to your original post. BEFORE OpenVPN, how did you watch your videos? Through the BI app? Through your browser?

What I wrote: if you open your VPN tunnel, the "rest" should remain the same (eg. your vpn tunnel is "transparant".).

If that is not the case, then I'm lost in your question :)
 

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Watched on my home win 10 on BlueIris 5. On my 65" TV screen at 4k resolution through 10' HDMI cable.
Also on my Blue iris android app, on WIFI connection only.
Also on S tunnel, which caused problems on my computer and I uninstalled it.

I need the OpenVPN server on my router, so I can see my cams when travelling.
 
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For my use of OpenVPN, I start the program on my mobile device, then open up your mobile device browser (I use Chrome), plug in the local IP address of your BI machine (192.168.xxx.xxx), and whalla....I see the UI3 login/password and able to view all my cams with the associated clips & alerst.
When you use OpenVPN, you are now basically inside your home's local network. Hopefully, you know the IP address of your BI machine. Plug that IP address into your browser bar with the 81 port. example: 192.168.0.10:81
Can't speak of the BI android app as I do not use it. But you wanted to see the cameras and using the UI3 is a great way to do just that.
 

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For my use of OpenVPN, I start the program on my mobile device, then open up your mobile device browser (I use Chrome), plug in the local IP address of your BI machine (192.168.xxx.xxx), and whalla....I see the UI3 login/password and able to view all my cams with the associated clips & alerst.
When you use OpenVPN, you are now basically inside your home's local network. Hopefully, you know the IP address of your BI machine. Plug that IP address into your browser bar with the 81 port. example: 192.168.0.10:81
Can't speak of the BI android app as I do not use it. But you wanted to see the cameras and using the UI3 is a great way to do just that.
That's why I stated to @dee on how he currently watches the BI streams when being at home, as the OpenVPN tunnel simulates you being home. But I'm getting confusing messages (eg I need the server on my router) -> I image he already deployed it, otherwise it won't work :)
 

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Ok, sorry about any confusion, I'll try to clear it up.

  1. I have 4 hardwired cameras.
  2. I view them on Blue Iris version 5, which is running on a windows 10 computer. I think it is great!!!
  3. I would like to get an alert when someone comes to the door and when I am out of town.
  4. I have tried (for over a year) to set up my Asus RT-AC68U's built in OpenVpn for connecting to my home's computer in a secure way, to check my cameras in Blue Iris 5.
  5. I have found many videos but have encountered differences from what my router displayed (I have latest firmware). I also found ambiguities and plain missing settings in these videos.
  6. I was finally able to connect to my home network from my LG android phone using OpenVpn, but only got as far as showing a moving graph of my connection, but no connection to Blue Iris, or anything else.
  7. I have used Stunnel in the past but found that it somehow wrote to memory where it interfered with and then disabled my wireless mouse. I finally had to re-install windows 10 because nothing worked to restart the system.
  8. I also have the android version of Blue Iris and have trouble getting it to work from outside my WIFI.
  9. My WIFI is clear and clean. No interference nearby.
  10. My preference would be to connect with my home Blue Iris via the android Blue Iris, using a secure connection.

Help would be very much appreciated!
 

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Never seen a bullet list which does not make sense to me :)

Q1. Can you show us a "screenshot" of that "moving graph" in OpenVPN?
Q2. Can you show us a working version of the BI app on your android when being on your wifi?
 

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No way to share from my phone. It is a moving graph.
It shows Yellow/golden Spikes, narrowing to a needle point at the top. They are about 10 seconds apart, evenly spaced, "Connection Stats" heading. 133B/s .
"YOUR PRIVATE IP" 10.8.0.6
then my xxxxxxxxx.asuscomm.com
then my xxx.xxx.xxx.xx public IP
then the port 443
then UPDv4

The working version of my android BI stopped connecting, both WIFI and internet.
Reason:Unable to reach server.
 
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for giggles...try to use UI3 for testing purposes to ensure you are indeed fully operational on OpenVPN and that you can indeed able to connect to your Blue Iris computer.
 

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OK, now I can no longer reach my router.

Blue Iris, under settings-web server-Remote access Wizard, the 5th page says:
"If your router shows its gateway is 192.168.x.x or 10.x.x.x, then its connected to another router, not the internet directly. You can solve this in one of several ways:
Connect you PC to the other router; set the main router to DMZ, or forward ports to this router; or reconfigure this router as an access point or switch instead of a gateway."

So this was the case:My router is connected to my ip's router, which was bridged so it would only act as a modem.
So here is what I did: I configured my router as an access point.
Now this same page shows my router's address on my internal lan as:104.136.240.1

When I try this, I get 'refused' as an answer.
I then tried to somehow go into my windows firewall to allow it.
Well, I found out that a little knowledge is really dangerous.
There was no obvious way to do anything except look at a multitude of archaic rules, which would require a long study first.

Also my router was setup as 192.168.0.x instead of 192.168.1.x

I need help to get back into my router; Please!
 
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something is amiss and probably way above my paygrade.
I do know, any network device behind your router will have just one of these following IP ranges: 10.0.0.0 to 10.255.255.255. 172.16.0.0 to 172.31.255.255. 192.168.0.0 to 192.168.255.255. This is the IT industry private IP range (aka IP's to be used behind your router to each networking device such as access point, computer, wireless Iphone, etc). By default, most home routers will use the 192.168.xxx.xxx. Never seen anyone use 172.xxx.xxx.xxx. You list your Router LAN (aka internal IP) as 104.xxx.xxx.xxx.
Online forums for help can only go so far. You have different firmware than the instructional videos, you do not understand how IP's work or how to troubleshoot (I did not either a couple years ago). Might be time for a local IT buddy to come help.
Take my IT advice with a grain of salt. I'm a business telephone and cabling guy. Have "dabbled" with IT stuff to be somewhat comfy with it.
 
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Hi, Thank you very much.
What is a UI3? I think I used to know but I forgot, (comes with age).
No idea where you got the 172.xxx.xxx.xxx. But the 104.136.240.1 I mentioned was what Blue Iris showed to now be my router's internal address.
Is it possible that this is the modems address? My ip bridged their router to bypass and only act as a modem when I told them that I bought an asus router and wanted to use it.
 

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Hi, Thank you very much.
What is a UI3? I think I used to know but I forgot, (comes with age).
No idea where you got the 172.xxx.xxx.xxx. But the 104.136.240.1 I mentioned was what Blue Iris showed to now be my router's internal address.
Is it possible that this is the modems address? My ip bridged their router to bypass and only act as a modem when I told them that I bought an asus router and wanted to use it.
You are mixing up couple of issues/challenges which makes it really hard for us to provide advice.

So return to square one.

If you can't reach BI on your home network through that android app/browser, it does not make ANY sense to try with OpenVPN. If LAN access is messed up, your router/firewall//TCP stack on your LAN is already broken.
Secondly, from your N-2 post I deduce your VPN (should/might) be fully working, but if you cannot "proof" you can access your BI pc from your LAN, it does not make any sense to try VPN on top of a broken system.

So instead of trying to fix things that ain't broken, better focus on the overall picture: make a drawing/diagram, indicate your ISP gear (modem/router), draw your own ASUS, draw the lines to your BI pc, and indicate at each line WHICH IP address you see where (LAN side versus WAN side).

Without such a diagram, all advice might be redundant or worse, creating more problems.

Thanks for your understanding!
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It seems 104.136.240.1 is correct. I went into command prompt and verified it with ipconfig.
All I need now a way to be allowed back into my router.

Can anyone help?
 
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to be clear... I mentioned there are 3 possible Local Area Network (LAN) also known as Internal IP. 192.xxx.xxx.xxx and 172.xxx.xxx.xxx and 10.xxx.xxx.xxx. I've seen 192.xxx.xxx.xxx and 10.xxx.xxx.xxx used out in the world in different business's but never 172.xxx.xxx.xxx, as a general world reference not pertaining to you.
UI3 is a web browser utility for Blue Iris that allows you to see all your cameras on your Internal IP network and also through a VPN (in your case, the type of VPN you and I both use is OpenVPN). The forum posts of people wanting to use a tablet on the wall in their home to always display cameras, use this web browser utility with Chrome or Internet Explorer or whatever their web browser program is. Many folks use this UI3 instead of the Blue Iris Mobile App for different reasons. This is what I use on my internal computer to view live streaming cameras, alerts, and clips. This is also what I use when away from home with the use of OpenVPN.

As Catcamstar says... let's return to square one for help & advise because something not being communicated is going on here.
 

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You are mixing up couple of issues/challenges which makes it really hard for us to provide advice.

So return to square one.

If you can't reach BI on your home network through that android app/browser, it does not make ANY sense to try with OpenVPN. If LAN access is messed up, your router/firewall//TCP stack on your LAN is already broken.
Secondly, from your N-2 post I deduce your VPN (should/might) be fully working, but if you cannot "proof" you can access your BI pc from your LAN, it does not make any sense to try VPN on top of a broken system.

So instead of trying to fix things that ain't broken, better focus on the overall picture: make a drawing/diagram, indicate your ISP gear (modem/router), draw your own ASUS, draw the lines to your BI pc, and indicate at each line WHICH IP address you see where (LAN side versus WAN side).

Without such a diagram, all advice might be redundant or worse, creating more problems.

Thanks for your understanding!
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You are indeed correct. I stated a few posts ago that Blue Iris identified my problem and provided an answer.


Blue Iris, under settings-web server-Remote access Wizard, the 5th page says:
"If your router shows its gateway is 192.168.x.x or 10.x.x.x, then its connected to another router, not the internet directly. You can solve this in one of several ways:
Connect you PC to the other router; set the main router to DMZ, or forward ports to this router; or reconfigure this router as an access point or switch instead of a gateway."

So this was the case:My router is connected to my ip's router, which was bridged so it would only act as a modem.
So here is what I did: I configured my router as an access point.
Now this same page shows my router's address on my internal lan as:104.136.240.1


It seems this may be my ip's modem address as it is below the normal 192.x.x.x level.
If this is indeed the modem's ip, then how can I now find and access my asus router?
 

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Good, point your browser to 104.136.240.1
What does that say?
 
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side note for future folks searching the forums about bridge routers and why:
some ISP's (your internet provider) supply you with their own modem (I have Charter so I have the Charter cable modem). These can be identified as a coaxial cable going in and a SINGLE RJ45 port coming out. This would only be a modem, you are required to self purchase your own router. Some ISP's supply you with a combination modem/router (which may or may not have WiFi enabled) that have a coaxial cable going in and multiple (usually 5) RJ45 ports coming out. These ISP combination modem/routers are not every configurable so many folks convert the combination modem/router into just a modem, which is called BRIDGING. We then purchase our own routers that can be highly configured (example: can add OpenVPN to it, USB storage device, more control over WiFi options, etc) and connect to the BRIDGED ISP combination modem/router.
 
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