I am looking for a very smart tracking PTZ IP Cam under $3000?

talisman2208

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Right now I have a Sunba P636V2, it's about $300 and it's quite frankly garbage. The PTZ is slow and laggy and unresponsive and the AI tracking is horrendous. Wondering if anyone has a bead on a really smart IP camera with very good intelligent tracking, preferably one with a wide angle lens and good zoom. I hear Dahua has some nice cameras but I don't know anything about them.
 

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For under $3,000 (if that is what you meant), this would be the choice:



For under $1,000 this would be the PTZ:



For under $500 this would be the PTZ:



Under $300 with good AI and tracking we haven't really seen.
 

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For under $3,000 (if that is what you meant), this would be the choice:



For under $1,000 this would be the PTZ:



For under $500 this would be the PTZ:



Under $300 with good AI and tracking we haven't really seen.

I definitely consider you an expert so I will take your advice. I've never heard of Empire Tech, why do you like them? What does this camera have to offer over some of the smart ones I've seen Dahua put out?
 

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Andy's (@EMPIRETECANDY) cameras are Dahua equipment sold under the names Loryta and Empiretech. He also supplies them to the ipcamtalk store.

Some of my cameras I have bought from Andy from his Amazon store come as Dahua cams in Dahua boxes with Dahua logos, and some are not logo'd - I think it depends on how many cameras Andy buys if he gets them with the Dahua Logo or not. But regardless, they are Dahua units. If you get a unit that has Dahua on it, then the camera GUI will say Dahua; otherwise it will simply say IP Camera but looks identical except without the logo. Some of his cameras may come with EmpireTech stamped on them as well.

As long you you buy from the vendor EmpireTech or Loryta on Amazon or his website or via DM, they are Andy cams and Dahua OEM.

His cameras and NVRs are international models and many of them are not available through Dahua USA authorized dealers, but his cameras and NVRs are usually better than what you can find from a USA authorized dealer.

You can update the firmware on Andy's cameras and NVRs from the Dahua website, thus proving they are real Dahua. But you will find that the firmware we get from him is actually better and more recent than what is on the Dahua website because many members here provide feedback to Andy and then Dahua makes modifications to the firmware and sends back to him and then he sends out to his customers. These have been great improvements that Dahua doesn't even update their firmware and add to their website. So many of us are running a newer firmware than those that purchase Dahua cameras through professional installers. Smart IR on the 5442 series is one such improvement. Autotracking on the 49225 and 49425 PTZ is another. We got the next version of AI SMD 3.0 prior to anyone else as well.

Look at the threads here where members are actually testing firmware and improving it for Dahua - find a Dahua dealer with that type of relationship that Andy has with Dahua - I don't think you will find it. Look at the Dahua 4k camera on the 1/1.2" sensor as an example - Dahua provides cameras to Andy to sell before Dahua even made it available and look at all the improvements being made to the firmware from input from customers right here on this site. And the kicker is, we are not Dahua's target market - it is the professional installers...

You do have to be careful with some rebranded cameras purchased from other vendors as they are either fake Dahua cameras or are cameras that are for the Chinese region but have been hacked into English but then are not able to be updated or they will brick. Buying from a reputable source is key to make sure that doesn't happen.


It says you are in the USA, so if you go to an authorized USA Dealer, you will find that you will be spending anywhere from double to five times the amount for a Dahua camera than you can buy from Andy. And as I mentioned, most of the models USA Dealers sell are not as good as the international selections. It is common for them to sell cameras on less than ideal MP/sensor ratios (looking at you 5MP cameras LOL).
 

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Yes, the PTZ4K45X-AI is the best of best right now. Here are some videos for your reference.

Daytime video

Nighttime video

Check this smart AI Functions.

 

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One of my biggest pet peeves with my Sunba is the .5 - .75 second delay when moving around my PTZ joystick - I'm assuming that's a camera hardware / firmware issue. It's the only PTZ camera I've ever had so I can't know for sure - does this camera have any lag issues when moving around the joystick?
 

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While I don't have that $2k PTZ, my other PTZs are fairly responsive.

But there are reports of some members of larger MP cameras having a minor lag simply due to all the data being used/processed.

Not many here have the $2k version, but those here that do haven't mentioned an issue.
 
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There is dedicated joystick controller for Dahua PTZ cams:


You can ask Andy (@EMPIRETECANDY) for tests how fast it performs with PTZ cam You selected from his store..
 
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