Where are the 2025 Models?
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bigredfish
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Here’s their best? 4MP 1/1.8 bullet. Currently featured series.. their Lightfinder tech is very good
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AXIS Q1806-LE Bullet Camera | Axis Communications
First-class surveillance in 4 MP with 32x zoom
I recently worked on a Unifi system new install, using the G5 Ultra Dome camera. I have to say that I am impressed with the video quality and overall user experience of the ecosystem. It is unfortunate that it lacks varifocal lens, but as long as the customer is fine with "wide angles for everyone" it makes for a very tidy system.
The cost on these cameras is impressive, too. Hardly paying more than we did for white-label Dahua cameras.
The "thing" detection feature works very, very well.
The cost on these cameras is impressive, too. Hardly paying more than we did for white-label Dahua cameras.
The "thing" detection feature works very, very well.
We would love to see some examples of motion at night/low light conditions.
Almost any camera can do well with lots of light.
That has been what we have seen sets the Dahua apart from other comparable priced cameras.
Fair point. These cameras are indoors, and the interior has enough light overnight that the cameras stay in day mode. I can't say how they perform in dark scenes.
LOL Good cam yes, who is paying $1600 for it in the home consumer world.Here’s their best? 4MP 1/1.8 bullet. Currently featured series.. their Lightfinder tech is very good
AXIS Q1806-LE Bullet Camera | Axis Communications
First-class surveillance in 4 MP with 32x zoom
bigredfish
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Asked my wife she said no lol. Axis bullet has presets like my 22x Uniview does plus other options mine don't.. Wish I would get my hands on one for testing lol.. However to be honest my Uniview has a longer MM of 143 then the Axis. However the Axis does have an impressive 90FPS under the right settings.. Looks smaller and says it is a pound lighter.. Plus says it will Metadata capture plates and can withstand 134 miles of wind.. To bad it wasn't out when I got the Uniview lol..
You know someone has to be the first kid on the block with one - won't be me though
observant1
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I have a 1080 p ALIBI thats many years old given to me. It does pretty well in low light although I've got it in my basement, so no outside video.
The most important thing I've learned is sensor size vs pixels...and some kind of intellegent features that can combine 3 frames into the best picture?....or am i mistaken? (not talking about splicing)
- edit for correct cam. ALIBI -
The most important thing I've learned is sensor size vs pixels...and some kind of intellegent features that can combine 3 frames into the best picture?....or am i mistaken? (not talking about splicing)
- edit for correct cam. ALIBI -
- Up to 2.0 MP resolution @ 30 fps
- 1920 x 1080
- 2.8 mm lens; 108 Degree Field of View
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Just for grins, I was looking at the AXIS cams - and looking at moderate zoom camera, I saw the 1468 (8MP 1/1.2" sensor) and the 1808 (10MP 4/3" (!) sensor) ... there are probably others (better) that I missed as I'm not familiar with their product line.
Now ... as pointed out, those are NOT cheap cameras as they are (literally!) 5-10X the cost of the 5442-S3's.
However, I'd like to know how these compare to the 5442-S3's ... i.e. has anyone put them side-by-side with similar shutter speed, etc.?
Are the images "night & day" different (especially in low-light) ... or does the 5442-S3 punch above it's weight (cost!) and providing images "close" to those high-end AXIS cameras?
Now ... as pointed out, those are NOT cheap cameras as they are (literally!) 5-10X the cost of the 5442-S3's.
However, I'd like to know how these compare to the 5442-S3's ... i.e. has anyone put them side-by-side with similar shutter speed, etc.?
Are the images "night & day" different (especially in low-light) ... or does the 5442-S3 punch above it's weight (cost!) and providing images "close" to those high-end AXIS cameras?
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I have the Dahua 5442-S2 (4MP on a 1/1.8" sensor), the Dahua 5842-S3 (8MP on 1/1.8"), and the Axis P1468-LE (8MP on a 1/1.2"). The 5442 and the Axis perform similarly at night, thanks to their ideal balance between resolution and sensor size. That said, the Axis delivers noticeably better image quality overall, simply because it has more megapixels to work with. The 5842-S3 also performs quite well, especially considering its higher resolution on a smaller sensor.
A 1/1.2" sensor is about 78% larger in area than a 1/1.8" sensor. That extra size gives the larger sensor better low-light performance, shallower depth of field, and improved dynamic range, all else being equal.
At current prices, the Axis goes for around $1,000, while the Dahua 5842-S3 bullet from Andy is about $250. Is the Axis four times better in terms of image quality? Definitely not—but it is clearly better, and I’m convinced that difference matters when it counts. On top of that, I find the Axis software much easier to use, and its video processing (like WDR) produces a noticeably cleaner image than Dahua—not just at night, but during the day as well. The Axis also can stay in color mode in much lower light conditions compared to the 5842, again thanks to that better resolution-to-sensor-size ratio and better video processing.
Other advantages of the Axis include better build quality, a 5-year warranty, and long-term software support. Axis OS is actively developed and regularly updated, which gives me more confidence in the device’s future reliability and security.
Overall, the Axis camera is clearly a better product in my experience. That said, for the average home user, the Dahua 5442/5842 offers much better value for money.
A 1/1.2" sensor is about 78% larger in area than a 1/1.8" sensor. That extra size gives the larger sensor better low-light performance, shallower depth of field, and improved dynamic range, all else being equal.
At current prices, the Axis goes for around $1,000, while the Dahua 5842-S3 bullet from Andy is about $250. Is the Axis four times better in terms of image quality? Definitely not—but it is clearly better, and I’m convinced that difference matters when it counts. On top of that, I find the Axis software much easier to use, and its video processing (like WDR) produces a noticeably cleaner image than Dahua—not just at night, but during the day as well. The Axis also can stay in color mode in much lower light conditions compared to the 5842, again thanks to that better resolution-to-sensor-size ratio and better video processing.
Other advantages of the Axis include better build quality, a 5-year warranty, and long-term software support. Axis OS is actively developed and regularly updated, which gives me more confidence in the device’s future reliability and security.
Overall, the Axis camera is clearly a better product in my experience. That said, for the average home user, the Dahua 5442/5842 offers much better value for money.
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Axis is a great brand and if you want to spend the money, go for it.
@smiticans is our resident Axis expert and has shown great quality with them. He sums it up best in this post (excerpt copied below):
"The price of Axis cameras aren't just for the image quality. You're also paying for 10 years of firmware updates to stay up to date with features and cybersecurity. They meet NDAA, TAA, FIPS 140-2 or 3 compliance, support zero trust networking and have support for signed video (adds cryptographic signatures to recorded video to verify the video is authentic and hasn't been tampered with). They also have additional cybersecurity features such as Edge Vault etc. They support integration to access control systems, primeter detection systems that include radar units, thermal imaging sensors, speakers, sirens/strobes and relay units. They support MQTT, VAPIX commands, ACAP (Axis Camera Application Platform) where apps can be developed and run directly on the camera itself. The higher end ones also have DLPU (Deep Learning Processing Units) for analytics. The Zipstream technology and compression allow these cameras to use less bitrate while maintaining image quality. My Axis cameras use about half of the storage/bitrate when compared to my Dahua cameras without sacrificing image quality.
If you're trying to keep your install on a lower budget, Dahua is the way to go. If you don't care about budget, and are interested in the Axis features I listed above, it might make more sense for you to use Axis.
Just keep in mind, this forum leans heavily towards BI and Dahua cameras. You will get a lot of support here if you purchase Dahua cameras. You won't get lot of support if you purchase Axis cameras."
Wow...does this bulky Ethernet connector have to be used like this? It's half the size of the camera!
bigredfish
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Which 5842 model has a 1/1.2” sensor?
I thought it was just the 5849?
GREAT info @tuvow - any chance you have some side-by-side image taken at night with the same/reasonable shutter speed?
P.S. Just noticed this thread about the AXIS Q1808-LE ... thank you @Parley for "taking one for the team" to order this camera and post some great info ... ditto @smiticans who has some excellent commentary.
P.S. Just noticed this thread about the AXIS Q1808-LE ... thank you @Parley for "taking one for the team" to order this camera and post some great info ... ditto @smiticans who has some excellent commentary.
bigredfish
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Wow sorry I read that as 1/1.2, I guess not enough coffee. Apologies
Of course a 1/1.2 sensor on 8MP will beat a 1/1.8 on 8MP all day every day
Seems like a better apples to apples comparison would be the Dahua 5849 8MP 1/1.2" to the Axis P1468-LE 8MP on a 1/1.2"
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Haha, no worries! I agree—the 5849 would be a more fair comparison, though it lacks IR, and unfortunately I don’t have one to test. It’s pitch black here at night, so IR is a must for my setup.