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Nathan W

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Hello,
I am building a new BI server for a client of mine and I an looking for recommendations for the best hardware to get. I am thinking I will likely purchase all the components form Amazon and assemble it on my own. This system will need to support 30+ Cameras
I know I will go with a high end i7 proc. I was hoping for some input as to which i7 Is working best for BI users. I am thinking 32GB of RAM. Ad far as the Hard Drive Layout I am thinking of a 250GB SSD for the OS, a 100 GB SSD for the BI application, a 1TB SSD for new recordings and 2 4TB SATA's for long term storage.
I would be very grateful for motherboard recommendations and CPU.

Thanks!!!
 
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Your storage configuration is flawed. Keep the 250GB SSD and use that for the OS and BlueIris. You don't need a separate SSD just for BI. SSD's are not designed for video surveillance and shouldn't be used as the primary drive BI records to. Get two to three 4TB Western Digital purple drives and have BI record directly to them. Read more threads and get a better understanding of how BI works. You could also download the demo version on your computer to get a better understanding of the program.
 
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smiticans said:
Your storage configuration is flawed. Keep the 250GB SSD and use that for the OS and BlueIris. You don't need a separate SSD just for BI. SSD's are not designed for video surveillance and shouldn't be used as the primary drive BI records to. Get two to three 4TB Western Digital purple drives and have BI record directly to them. Read more threads and get a better understanding of how BI works. You could also download the demo version on your computer to get a better understanding of the program.
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What makes ssd inappropriate for video surv? I'm using my htpc as my blue iris server (with google play/streaming/etc it's doing less and less media serving these days)...
I was until recently also using it as a gamming computer (no longer), so it's fairly decently spec'd, a 7700k, 32gb ram, an optane 900P as a boot drive, a samsung 960 pro nvme 1tb for games, and a slew of 8tb WD Reds for storage.

Anyway, I didn't design the machine from the ground up to be a blue iris server, but figured the hardware was more than adequate -- I'm using the samsung 960 as the "new" storage in BI , and one of the reds as the "archived " storage (or whatever BI calls it).

Am I better off just not using the 960, and relying solely on the reds?
 
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jmg said:
What makes ssd inappropriate for video surv? I'm using my htpc as my blue iris server (with google play/streaming/etc it's doing less and less media serving these days)...
I was until recently also using it as a gamming computer (no longer), so it's fairly decently spec'd, a 7700k, 32gb ram, an optane 900P as a boot drive, a samsung 960 pro nvme 1tb for games, and a slew of 8tb WD Reds for storage.

Anyway, I didn't design the machine from the ground up to be a blue iris server, but figured the hardware was more than adequate -- I'm using the samsung 960 as the "new" storage in BI , and one of the reds as the "archived " storage (or whatever BI calls it).

Am I better off just not using the 960, and relying solely on the reds?
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The constant writing of data will cause the drive to reach the end of its life sooner rather than later.

There are zero benefits for using an SSD as BI's primary recording drive. BI should be recording directly to those WD red drives (I prefer the WD purple drives since they are designed for this type of application).

Honestly, using that Samsung 960 Pro NVME solely as storage for BI's new recordings is a HUGE waste of money.

Keep 1 SSD for the boot drive, BI's program files and database and use the WD red drives for video storage.
 
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smiticans said:
The constant writing of data will cause the drive to reach the end of its life sooner rather than later.

There are zero benefits for using an SSD as BI's primary recording drive. BI should be recording directly to those WD red drives (I prefer the WD purple drives since they are designed for this type of application).

Honestly, using that Samsung 960 Pro NVME solely as storage for BI's new recordings is a HUGE waste of money.

Keep 1 SSD for the boot drive, BI's program files and database and use the WD red drives for video storage.
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Huh. good to know. as long as there are no performance penalties, I may just keep it the way it is-- like I said, I originally built the machine for htpc/game playing duties, I have other better machines in the house now that are for game playing-- so, it's not really a waste of $$. More a change in direction (gamming computer is running striped optanes for storage, no benefit from swapping in the 960 into that machine)

As long as there are no performance detriments, I'll just keep using it. the M.2 drive does use less power and throws less heat (a concern in my set up-- the pc is in an AV enclosure with limited airflow).

thanks for the insights.
 
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This is a link to a wish list on newegg that I just built one in december that worked for me.
Using a 120 GB ssd after a month I still have over half of it free. 16 gb of ram works great again I am very rarely seeing memory utilization get over 25%.

I am using a the two hard drives and spanned mode a 3rd drive for new would I think be something I add but not necessary. I have the new get moved to old every day. The secod Network card is for internet for blue iris server everything else is local only for security.
This system is running 21 cameras and only when I am remoted in do I see CPU go above 21 %

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Split the cameras across the drives.
If you have three drives of equal size, put 1/3 of the cameras on each drive. Once a file is written do not move it, that wastes CPU and adds to disk wear. This way if a drive fails you still have 2/3 of your cameras recording.
Never use spanning, the more moving parts the likely it will fail.
I do not use use the save folder concept.
 
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