Advise on a new cameras for a new camera install.

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Up front, any advice is greatly appreciated. It isn't your job to design my system, but any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated.

4, 000 sq ft house. Rural setting, dark as dark at night unless the stars are out. I have one thing nailed down, I will be using the Dahua NVR Dahua NVR NVR5232-16P-4KS2E NVR. Seemed the best of all worlds for my purposes, epoe, 32 channel, poe, etc etc. I spent weeks finding it, as I overthink everything.

Now I am struggling on cameras. To me it is a delicate balance. 2mp starlights are affordable and seem like they will give me the best low / no light video (customize the lenses per application). I am also thinking of putting some 4k's around in select locations. my priority is identification (day and night). In my learning stages I had the ezviz 3mp setup. They were fair, had the typical IR issues, bugs and moths also. The other issue was with their 3.6 mm lens, identification was pretty rough. I am not stuck on Dahua, but I like their starlights, and I like the STARVIS also from what I have seen on here. I am also toying with adding a tracking PTZ at some point.

My thought is there is only really one road in, the other sides are huge fields and very very low risk. I figure put a 12mm or so lens on the driveway to identify any car / truck in question. The outside cameras serve a couple purposes. 1, watch the dogs. 2, see approaching vehicles 3, identify anyone entering one of the two doors. By criss crossing the front and back cameras that gives me a good close view of anyone from two sides. The cameras would be under a 9 ft overhanging porch. the other outdoor cameras are just to give me a view of approach, wide angle monitoring etc. The inside of the house is very open, so a few cameras can protect all high value areas. I was thinking a mix of 4k and starlight.

I love the resolution of 4k, but the STARVIS cameras I have seen don't have starlight.
I am not stuck on brand at all, but like the dahua so far, or the rebranded lorex also. I figure with the epoe I can eventually bury a cat 5 and put an lpr or starlight or both down at the end of the driveway facing the house.

My house floor plan is super open. I have attached pictures of the lot, the outside of the house, and the floorplan. I have shown on the picture the idea of what I am toying with, but I am very open to criticism.
stringing the wires is super easy at this point, and the design of the house allows me to add wires at a later date easily also.

Thanks again in advance.
Steve
 

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I am aware that the STARVIS is a sensor, and starlight is a separate technology. I just like the looks of both, or even better combining the two. I am leaning towards turret style, or bullet style outside, don't care inside. I was also thinking of adding audio on the indoor cameras. H265+ would be nice, but not a requirement H25 is acceptable, something like the N84BG44 outside.
 

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Welcome Seaton,

Looks like a really nice home you've got.

You've probably already looked at the notes, would suggest reviewing the international Dahua OEM camera model naming schema in case you would like to compare any of those cameras to the US market models.
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The turret models would be IPC-HDWxxxx
The Squarish bullet models would be IPC-HFWxxxx

Many of us have picked up the IPC-HDW5231xxx varifocal starlight turret model in either PoE or ePoE versions. I would recommend using that as a base model to compare your options with. ( I do not think the US market has gotten that style in yet )

If you need a better zoom look at some of the IPC-HFW82xx or IPC-HFW52xx starlight models.

For a 8mp model look at the IPC-HDW58xx or IPC-HDW48xx or IPC-HFW58xx models.

Personally I like the idea of mixing 2mp starlight model cameras with a couple of 8mp cameras.

Remember if you want to do license plate reading see the LPR section and plan on allocating a camera for that as you would need to tune it to get a good license image.
 

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Welcome Seaton,

Looks like a really nice home you've got.

You've probably already looked at the notes, would suggest reviewing the international Dahua OEM camera model naming schema in case you would like to compare any of those cameras to the US market models.
IPCamTalk WiKi | IP Cam Talk

Many of us have picked up the IPC-HDW5231xxx varifocal starlight turret model in either PoE or ePoE versions. I would recommend using that as a base model to compare your options with. ( I do not think the US market has gotten that style in yet )

If you need a better zoom look at some of the IPC-HFW82xx or IPC-HFW52xx starlight models.

For a 8mp model look at the IPC-HDW58xx or IPC-HDW48xx or IPC-HFW58xx models.

Personally I like the idea of mixing 2mp starlight model cameras with a couple of 8mp cameras.

Remember if you want to do license plate reading see the LPR section and plan on allocating a camera for that as you would need to tune it to get a good license image.
Thanks a million, that helps a lot. I am currently getting my cameras from China, so that helps. My understanding is that I can mix both PAL and NTSC cameras with no problem. I have tons of experience with LPR, I actually wrote a program for the Sheriff's Department to utilize ANPR in warrant searches in the past.

Thanks for the recommendation on model, I am going to check those out right away. Am I correct that none of the current 8mp cameras are starlight yet ? I see descriptions that say they do starlight, but I think that is just due to their low lux rating of the STARVIS chip, but they aren't actually starlight ?
 

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Welcome Seaton,

Looks like a really nice home you've got.

You've probably already looked at the notes, would suggest reviewing the international Dahua OEM camera model naming schema in case you would like to compare any of those cameras to the US market models.
IPCamTalk WiKi | IP Cam Talk

The turret models would be IPC-HDWxxxx
The Squarish bullet models would be IPC-HFWxxxx

Many of us have picked up the IPC-HDW5231xxx varifocal starlight turret model in either PoE or ePoE versions. I would recommend using that as a base model to compare your options with. ( I do not think the US market has gotten that style in yet )

If you need a better zoom look at some of the IPC-HFW82xx or IPC-HFW52xx starlight models.

For a 8mp model look at the IPC-HDW58xx or IPC-HDW48xx or IPC-HFW58xx models.

Personally I like the idea of mixing 2mp starlight model cameras with a couple of 8mp cameras.

Remember if you want to do license plate reading see the LPR section and plan on allocating a camera for that as you would need to tune it to get a good license image.
So I was looking at the latest naming convention on the Dahua site. Is there anything in the number that indicates a camera is starlight ? if so which digit ?
 

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So I was looking at the latest naming convention on the Dahua site. Is there anything in the number that indicates a camera is starlight ? if so which digit ?
Hi Seaton,

No. You have to see the spec sheet for that info.
 

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woo, nice house, for the opening area is big, can hang a PTZ can save much money instead of installing more cams.
 
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