IPC Color4k Settings

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Hi there,

New to the forums and IP cameras in general. Recently purchased a Color4k -T but cannot seem to get the picture dialed in. It seems very grainy with slight flickering no matter what I adjust. I've played around with shutter speed and some picture settings but went back to default settings as that seemed to give the best result currently. Was wondering if anyone had any suggestions?

Attached are screenshots of my current settings and the current picture state
 

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Try at least 12,000 bitrate.

What are the other settings - shutter, sharpness, contrast, etc. Post those screenshots.

Keep in mind that the 4K cameras "grainy" image in some field of views are in many instances too much sharpness.
 

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Drop brightness and gamma down to 40. Contrast should be 8-10 higher than brightness.

Drop 2D and 3D down to 30.

The occasional "flicker" can be seen in some field of views as that is when the camera is getting a full frame. Depending on if you are using BI or an NVR or some other VMS system, changing the iframe can minimize it. For BI it is best to keep FPS and iframes the same number, but no more than double.

While it is annoying, remember the purpose of these cameras are not to produce hollywood movies but rather to capture clean images of what is going on. If my camera can allow me to get a clean snapshot of the perp, I live with a little flicker. But sometimes adjusting the settings can eliminate it completely or make it not noticeable.
 

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This is my standard post that many have used as a starting point:

In my opinion, shutter (exposure) and gain are the two most important parameters and then base the others off of it. Shutter is more important than FPS. It is the shutter speed that prevents motion blur, not FPS. 15 FPS is more than enough for surveillance cameras as we are not producing Hollywood movies. Match iframes to FPS. 15FPS is all that is usually needed.

Many people do not realize there is manual shutter that lets you adjust shutter and gain and a shutter priority that only lets you adjust shutter speed but not gain. The higher the gain, the bigger the noise and see-through ghosting start to appear because the noise is amplified. Most people select shutter priority and run a faster shutter than they should because it is likely being done at 100 gain, so it is actually defeating their purpose of a faster shutter.

Go into shutter settings and change to manual shutter and start with custom shutter as ms and change to 0-8.3ms and gain 0-50 (night) and 0-4ms exposure and 0-30 gain (day)for starters. Auto could have a shutter speed of 100ms or more with a gain at 100 and shutter priority could result in gain up at 100 which will contribute to significant ghosting and that blinding white you will get from the infrared or white light.

Now what you will notice immediately at night is that your image gets A LOT darker. That faster the shutter, the more light that is needed. But it is a balance. The nice bright night static image results in Casper blur and ghost during motion LOL. What do we want, a nice static image or a clean image when there is motion introduced to the scene?

In the daytime, if it is still too bright, then drop the 4ms down to 3ms then 2ms, etc. You have to play with it for your field of view.

Then at night, if it is too dark, then start adding ms to the time. Go to 10ms, 12ms, etc. until you find what you feel is acceptable as an image. Then have someone walk around and see if you can get a clean shot. Try not to go above 16.67ms (but certainly not above 30ms) as that tends to be the point where blur starts to occur. Conversely, if it is still bright, then drop down in time to get a faster shutter.

You can also adjust brightness and contrast to improve the image. But try not to go above 70 for anything and try to have contrast be at least 7-10 digits higher than brightness.

You can also add some gain to brighten the image - but the higher the gain, the more ghosting you get. Some cameras can go to 70 or so before it is an issue and some can't go over 50.

But adjusting those two settings will have the biggest impact. The next one is noise reduction. Want to keep that as low as possible. Depending on the amount of light you have, you might be able to get down to 40 or so at night (again camera dependent) and 20-30 during the day, but take it as low as you can before it gets too noisy. Again this one is a balance as well. Too smooth and no noise can result in soft images and contribute to blur.

Do not use backlight features until you have exhausted every other parameter setting. And if you do have to use backlight, take it down as low as possible.

After every setting adjustment, have someone walk around outside and see if you can freeze-frame to get a clean image. If not, keep changing until you do. Clean motion pictures are what we are after, not a clean static image.
 

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Thanks for the suggestions. I've adjusted the sharpness, bitrate and encoding. The picture looks much better but there still seems to be slight flickering if I look closely. Backlight is off and WB is set to auto
where are you grabbing the screenshot from?
 

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If you can't get it otherwise, for the regular pulsing/flicker you might try changing the encoding to AI Codec. That's the only thing that I found that would get rid of it for a couple of mine. The view that you have there with the big area of pavement/bushes/grass is kind of a bad case for that.
 

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Thanks for all the info. Have adjusted everything and it looks much better than before. Will try tweaking it in the next few days

where are you grabbing the screenshot from?
They're from the web gui. I'm in the process of setting up BI, just waiting for my WD purple drive to arrive tonight.
 

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Thanks for all the info. Have adjusted everything and it looks much better than before. Will try tweaking it in the next few days


They're from the web gui. I'm in the process of setting up BI, just waiting for my WD purple drive to arrive tonight.
Are you downloading the screenshot from the interface or sniping/copying the screen image?
 
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