Bandwidth question
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Hard wiring is not an option. Are there outdoor wifi adaptors that extend the wifi and then you plug the cam in with an ethernet cord, or, are those indoors only? I have a few but seem like for inside. I do have a new wireless extended that pushes 800 feet and that may help. I called cable company and increased bandwidth but not sure that was necessary. I record remotely with blue iris on my terabyte drive and when I use my cell phone all cams are working but on blue iris one may have lost a connection. my laptop is using 30% resources so not an issue.
fenderman
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Update the firmware on the cameras..they do have outdoor wireless bridges but it would be about the same price to pay a professional to run the cable without the issues of wifi...
I have indoor powerline adaptors but not outdoor - I see a few online but are cheap not sure if they are good. I have a dsl modem and wifi all in one from cable company. I am using a separate router as an extender. I didn't realize that this router should be plugged into the dsl modem via ethernet to work the best - I have had it in another room wirelessly connected. Once I connect it via ethernet and plug in my indoor powerline adaptors near the outdoor cams I am hoping for better connections. I thought it was a bandwidth issue.
aaronwt
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Wifi is very reliable if the wifi network is properly setup. ie. multiple APs, no congestion, excellent signal strength for all devices, and no saturated APs. I've been runnning eight of my cameras, streaming over wifi 24/7/365, with BI since 2013. They have been every bit as rock solid as the cameras I have on wired connections.
The problem is that the vast majority of home WiFi networks are not even close to being setup properly.
fenderman
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Anything is possible, but most folks are not setting up access points etc...it also very much depends on the home construction, your neighbors, your microwave oven, etc...there is simply nothing as reliable as hard wire and you get the benefit of a clean install with poe..you also gain the ability to use any new camera on the market without having to rely on a bridge or powerline...for those who cannot run cable themselves there are professionals who can do this a very reasonable cost and cleanly inside walls without any exposed wire. This is the proper way to install security cameras...if you want to plop a wifi camera in your playroom to monitor the kids that is a different story..
If you really have to use WiFi for whatever reason (e.g. rental home disallowing drilling holes) then I can recommend multiple Ubiquiti UniFi access points, ideally linked by ethernet cable or powerline adapters. Ubiquiti UniFi can be a bit complicated to set up, since you have to configure them with PC software, but once you get that installed and running they aren't too bad.
Some general advice though:
* Wireless repeaters are likely to only hurt overall performance, since they will at least double the amount of airtime being used for the same traffic.
* Absolutely do not connect your Blue Iris machine by WiFi. This is the single most performance-killing thing you could do.
Some general advice though:
* Wireless repeaters are likely to only hurt overall performance, since they will at least double the amount of airtime being used for the same traffic.
* Absolutely do not connect your Blue Iris machine by WiFi. This is the single most performance-killing thing you could do.
aaronwt
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I've tried with my BI machine connected over WiFi for several weeks when I was testing. I had zero issues and performace was identical to me being connected to my wired network. But I can also get 150Mb/s throughput over wireless N with each AP. My cameras are only sending 40Mb/s to 60Mb/s 24/7/365 which is no issue for my WiFinetwork. And as I mentioned before my WiFi is setup properly. I currently use four Access Points for my condo. With all running 2.4 and 5Ghz concurrently. That way my several dozen wireless devices have no issues.
But I also have several dozen devices connected to my wired GigE backbone. When these four Hikvision cameras arrive I ordered, that will push me to around ninety devices on my home network.
But your typical home network has only one AP. Which is woefully inadequate.
Sounds like a nice setup. I have about 60-70 devices on my LAN, with maybe 10 of these on WiFi. To accomplish this I use two of the cheapest UniFi APs (2.4ghz only, no 802.11ac) but only one of them gets used regularly, as the other is in my garage is is good for little more than helping me focus and aim cameras.
Sometimes on this forum I discover someone is running a bunch of foscams on WiFi with poor signal plus Blue Iris on a WiFi laptop, and then they try to remote view from a WiFi device. And of course they only have one access point so they have video data being transmitted on the same frequency four times (not including retransmissions due to packet loss) just to get from the camera to the remote viewing device. In this rather common situation it makes a tremendous difference when the Blue Iris machine gets plugged in to wired LAN, since it cuts the WiFi usage in half.
Sometimes on this forum I discover someone is running a bunch of foscams on WiFi with poor signal plus Blue Iris on a WiFi laptop, and then they try to remote view from a WiFi device. And of course they only have one access point so they have video data being transmitted on the same frequency four times (not including retransmissions due to packet loss) just to get from the camera to the remote viewing device. In this rather common situation it makes a tremendous difference when the Blue Iris machine gets plugged in to wired LAN, since it cuts the WiFi usage in half.
I have similar issues...
I have 6 foscam IP cams that are low quality - Four 640x480, One 1280x720, and One 1920x1080. They are all connected to a router I use as an AP which is connected to my Nighthawk R7000 router. My ISP is Xfinity cable and I have decent speeds when doing a speed test online (140mbs down / 20 up). If I check my speeds with my cell phone on the WIFI with Blue Iris off, I get 60mbs down / 12 up. When I turn on my Blue Iris, the same test comes back with 12mbs down / 2 up. This was tolerable until I just got two additional HD Wifi cams from Amcrest. When I connect them to the AP, my WIFI speeds die completely (1mbs down / 0.1 up). I have a 4000 square foot home, so it's difficult to run wire everywhere needed. I'd like to stay WIFI if possible. Any idea of improvements I can make to enable the cams and retain by WIFI speeds?
I have 6 foscam IP cams that are low quality - Four 640x480, One 1280x720, and One 1920x1080. They are all connected to a router I use as an AP which is connected to my Nighthawk R7000 router. My ISP is Xfinity cable and I have decent speeds when doing a speed test online (140mbs down / 20 up). If I check my speeds with my cell phone on the WIFI with Blue Iris off, I get 60mbs down / 12 up. When I turn on my Blue Iris, the same test comes back with 12mbs down / 2 up. This was tolerable until I just got two additional HD Wifi cams from Amcrest. When I connect them to the AP, my WIFI speeds die completely (1mbs down / 0.1 up). I have a 4000 square foot home, so it's difficult to run wire everywhere needed. I'd like to stay WIFI if possible. Any idea of improvements I can make to enable the cams and retain by WIFI speeds?
You might try powerline networking gear like these: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B010Q29KRK/
Try to use them to wire the furthest and poorest signal cameras first.
Try to use them to wire the furthest and poorest signal cameras first.
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Thanks, I have a couple sets of those actually, but I'm only using one (for directv). If I bought more sets, do you set up a power strip with all of them plugged in? (There's only one open wall plug by my computer) Plus what's the best way to split my ethernet coming out of my router to plug in all these powerlines? (I don't have any open ports on my router currently).
Don't use a power strip with a powerline adapter. Some power strips filter out the network signals making the powerline adapters ineffective. You want the powerline adapters plugged directly into the wall, or a short extension cord can work too.
What you need for more network ports in the same place is a switch, not more powerline adapters.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00A121WN6
Everything you plug into a switch can talk to everything else. So if you need more network ports anywhere, use a switch. There is no reason to use multiple powerline adapters in the same place. Sorry, I'm not very good at explaining computer networks
What you need for more network ports in the same place is a switch, not more powerline adapters.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00A121WN6
Everything you plug into a switch can talk to everything else. So if you need more network ports anywhere, use a switch. There is no reason to use multiple powerline adapters in the same place. Sorry, I'm not very good at explaining computer networks
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No, you've been very helpful. So I get the initial powerline set like the one you mentioned. Then I buy extra "adapters" to connect to my various cameras? http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-PA..._UL160_SR160,160_&refRID=1EDHZ0D0VBRD0CGDZ7J3. Thus I only have ONE powerline by my computer router and thus only need one ethernet cord going into the powerline feeder?
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Yes, but really the kit is just a set of two adapters and it is cheaper to buy two of the singles that you found than to buy one of the kit. Buy one adapter to connect to your router, and one adapter for every location you need to extend your network to. If you need more than one network port in any spot, I recommend a 5 port switch there along with the powerline adapter.
I have a couple different sets that are different brands. Are different brands compatible with each other?
Awesome. Thanks! I also have not been able to get the PTZ for the Amcrest models to work with blue iris... any ideas? The PTZ works fine with all other brands
Wow. I had 4x Netgear Powerline 200Mbs adapters, so I had 2 unused. I plugged in two cameras into these adapters, then turned off the others and rechecked my speeds... having the two cameras connected via powerline was like they weren't connected at all. The speeds did not slow a bit compared to having all cameras off. So I agree that is the best solution. I just need to get a few more adapters and I'm set! Well, that and I need to figure out how to get the PTZ to work on these Amcrests (spectacular picture btw when you're use to the original foscams).
I wonder if I'll notice a big difference between 200mps and 500mps with these cams???
I wonder if I'll notice a big difference between 200mps and 500mps with these cams???