Best indoor and outdoor cameras from Dahua ?

[Maanu1141]

Hello everyone!

I'm looking to upgrade my current Dahua NVR system and would really appreciate your input. I’d like to add an exterior camera to cover the outside of my local market, and also replace the existing camera monitoring the counter with a high-end model. Ideally, the new counter camera should offer crystal clear image ( when i playback the video to still keep the high quality when i zoom in — I need to clearly see the banknotes when they’re counted or handed over by customers )

For the exterior camera, I’m aiming for something reliable and high-quality. If it has built-in lights or features that can help deter thieves or burglars at night (especially near the windows), that would be a huge bonus.

I’ve spoken to a few security camera vendors in my area, but it feels like they’re just trying to push what they have in stock. So I’d much rather hear real recommendations from you guys.

Also, I’d like to install two additional cameras on my house for personal security and to monitor the surroundings when I’m not home. Since the market is located at my house's ground floor, I can connect them directly to the market's NVR also.

My budget is around €150 to €300 per camera if there's something really worth it.

Thanks in advance — I really appreciate your help!

 

[wittaj]

You may find these cameras are not that good to read banknotes and cash, especially if fast moving. They are good at captures general identification of a person but unless the banknote is slowly placed in front of the camera and optically takes up most of the field of view, it won't work. Someone here tried to do a similar system to count bags and types of mulch and it just isn't that good. He could make out different types, but barcodes were a no go.

This thread is used as the go to for the new person here outlining the commonly recommended cameras (along with Amazon links) based on distance to IDENTIFY that represent the overall best value/best bang for the buck in terms of price and performance day and night. It might be a 2MP camera in some instances. Many here feel 4MP is the current sweet spot for these cameras.

The Importance of Focal Length over MP in camera selection

And coupled with that thread is this great thread which will show why all of the same 2.8 or 3.6mm cameras is the wrong choice (these are the common focal lengths consumer brands sell):

i-want-2-8mm-cameras-everywhere-to-see-everything-this-is-why-you-need-specific-fovs-with-purposeful-focal-lengths.70053/

We would encourage you to look at those threads in detail.

It will probably raise more questions than answers LOL

 

[Maanu1141]

You may find these cameras are not that good to read banknotes and cash, especially if fast moving. They are good at captures general identification of a person but unless the banknote is slowly placed in front of the camera and optically takes up most of the field of view, it won't work. Someone here tried to do a similar system to count bags and types of mulch and it just isn't that good. He could make out different types, but barcodes were a no go.

This thread is used as the go to for the new person here outlining the commonly recommended cameras (along with Amazon links) based on distance to IDENTIFY that represent the overall best value/best bang for the buck in terms of price and performance day and night. It might be a 2MP camera in some instances. Many here feel 4MP is the current sweet spot for these cameras.

The Importance of Focal Length over MP in camera selection

And coupled with that thread is this great thread which will show why all of the same 2.8 or 3.6mm cameras is the wrong choice (these are the common focal lengths consumer brands sell):

i-want-2-8mm-cameras-everywhere-to-see-everything-this-is-why-you-need-specific-fovs-with-purposeful-focal-lengths.70053/

We would encourage you to look at those threads in detail.

It will probably raise more questions than answers LOL

Thanks a lot, man! But honestly, as someone who knows almost nothing about these systems, those two topics actually left me more confused than I was before, lol.

I know there are tons of options out there, but could you recommend a few Dahua models that would be solid choices for my use case—something I can’t really go wrong with?

Just to clarify, we already have a decent camera installed on the ceiling above the counter that lets us distinguish between different banknote types pretty well (I’m not trying to read the barcodes, just to tell if it’s a 5 or 10 euro bill, stuff like that) but would like to upgrade it to something clearer since there are people that are trying to scam saying they handed a 100 euro banknote instead of 50.

However, we don’t have a good outdoor camera yet, and we definitely need one for the front of the market—with some kind of lights and good night visibility. I’m also planning to add two more cameras on the sides of my house, mounted higher up, to cover as much area as possible.

If you could just suggest a few Dahua models that would be reliable for these kinds of needs, that would help a lot. As I mentioned, I’ll be connecting them all to a Dahua NVR and viewing them through the DMSS app.

Forgot to mention, i'm from Europe

 

[bigredfish]

These are Dahua OEM cameras as sold by the forum’s favorite seller. EmpireTech.

For outside your shop

EmpireTech IPC-Color4M-T 1/1.8" CMOS 4MP Smart Dual Light Active Deter

4MP 1/1.8" CMOS Built-in multi-core light, Max. IR distance is 30 m, Max. warm light distance is 30 m Intelligent monitoring: Intrusion, Tripwire Supports max. 512 G Micro SD card Built-in dual Mic Support two-way talk IP67 protection Sound and light alarm (red and blue lights) SMD 4.0

empiretech01.com

For the POS camera we’d need to know the distance from camera to the point on the counter and how wide of a FOV you want there ideally

 

[steve1225]

TIOC 3449-PRO aka Color4M (not 4K!) in Andy shop...

choose 3.6mm variant (2.8mm is very wide)..

 

[Maanu1141]

Thanks so much for the suggestions, everyone! Unfortunately, it seems that EmpireTech doesn’t ship to Romania. Are there any Dahua equivalents to the models you recommended? I couldn’t find any myself—there are so many options, and I’m worried I might end up ordering something that doesn’t match what you suggested. Only site i can find the EmpireTech brand is Amazon and they have only 2 models that ship to Romania there.

 

[steve1225]

Thanks so much for the suggestions, everyone! Unfortunately, it seems that EmpireTech doesn’t ship to Romania. Are there any Dahua equivalents to the models you recommended? I couldn’t find any myself—there are so many options, and I’m worried I might end up ordering something that doesn’t match what you suggested. Only site i can find the EmpireTech brand is Amazon and they have only 2 models that ship to Romania there.

You must contact Andy by DM (@EMPIRETECANDY)
he ships to all EU...

 

[bigredfish]

Thanks so much for the suggestions, everyone! Unfortunately, it seems that EmpireTech doesn’t ship to Romania. Are there any Dahua equivalents to the models you recommended? I couldn’t find any myself—there are so many options, and I’m worried I might end up ordering something that doesn’t match what you suggested. Only site i can find the EmpireTech brand is Amazon and they have only 2 models that ship to Romania there.

Those ARE Dahua cameras with a different sticker.

Here's the Dahua Intl official part#

https://www.dahuasecurity.com/products/All-Products/Network-Cameras/WizSense-Series/3-Series/TiOC-PRO-WizColor/IPC-HDW3449H-AS-PV-PRO

 

[Maanu1141]

Those ARE Dahua cameras with a different sticker.

Here's the Dahua Intl official part#

https://www.dahuasecurity.com/products/All-Products/Network-Cameras/WizSense-Series/3-Series/TiOC-PRO-WizColor/IPC-HDW3449H-AS-PV-PRO

Thanks a lot ! I guess those would be also good to put them on the lateral of my house for personal security mounted higher ? Or should i stick with this one just for the outside of the market and go with something cheaper on the lateral of the house ?

 

[steve1225]

Thanks a lot ! I guess those would be also good to put them on the lateral of my house for personal security mounted higher ? Or should i stick with this one just for the outside of the market and go with something cheaper on the lateral of the house ?

you can use them everywhere, except places where you need strong optical zoom (due big distance - like from gate to building).

For good camera with strong telephoto zoom, you need to choose 5442-Z4E (Dahua) / 54IR-Z4E (Andy shop) (2x-6x optical zoom comparing to mobiles).

 

[Maanu1141]

Sorry for the double post, everyone. I got home earlier and took some photos to help you better understand the situation. The ceiling camera inside the market, above the counter, is installed at a height of about 3 meters. The exterior camera at the front of the shop is also positioned at approximately 3 meters. I'm planning to install two additional cameras on the side of the house, and they’ll likely be mounted at a similar height.

All my current Dahua cameras are connected to NVRs, and I monitor them through the DMSS app. My plan is to connect the new cameras to the same existing NVR setup. I've attached some photos so you can get a clearer picture.

 

[bigredfish]

That model is a good choice for

• Wide Overview anywhere
• Facial ID out to 15-20ft

The interior POS camera is more difficult. Exact distance from camera to POS area is critical to know.*

* I’m not an expert with POS cameras, but I would look at the 7000 series

https://www.dahuasecurity.com/products/All-Products/Network-Cameras/WizMind-7-Series

 

[JPmedia]

For POS area, from what I'm reading, most installations use a close-up camera directly over the POS for capture of cash exchange and another overview camera to capture a wide shot of the area. Seems a text invertor can be used as well to get real-time register information and be overlayed onto the camera feed

See the inserter here: CCTV POS Text Inserter CCTV POS Text Inserter, RS-232 to Ethernet Cash Register Data Capture

That's the cheapest inserter I can find, and I don't know how or if it will work with Dahua equipment or if it's available to your country.

 

[JPmedia]

Ideally, you would want a camera right outside the entrance pointing towards the door from the canopy to capture traffic coming out of the store.

And the cameras viewing the parking, might get better coverage if the views were reversed as in crossing lines of sight

 

[Maanu1141]

Those ARE Dahua cameras with a different sticker.

Here's the Dahua Intl official part#

https://www.dahuasecurity.com/products/All-Products/Network-Cameras/WizSense-Series/3-Series/TiOC-PRO-WizColor/IPC-HDW3449H-AS-PV-PRO

i just can t seem to find that 3449 anywhere, i only see 3849 which seems to be identical except it's 4k version ? is this ok for exterior in front of the shop and on the lateral side of the house ?

Dahua Full Color WizSense TiOC IPC-HDW3849H-AS-PV-0280B-S4​

Also , would a Dahua IPC-HDW5442TM-ASE-S3 be a better option than that 3849 for the exterior ? If i get a noticeable better video quality i think i can give up that alarm and lightning , i saw this one is really praised along this community .

 

[wittaj]

i just can t seem to find that 3449 anywhere, i only see 3849 which seems to be identical except it's 4k version ? is this ok for exterior in front of the shop and on the lateral side of the house ?

Dahua Full Color WizSense TiOC IPC-HDW3849H-AS-PV-0280B-S4​

Also , would a Dahua IPC-HDW5442TM-ASE-S3 be a better option than that 3849 for the exterior ? If i get a noticeable better video quality i think i can give up that alarm and lightning , i saw this one is really praised along this community .

That camera isn't on the ideal MP/sensor ratio and unless you have TONS of light, the 4MP will outperform once the light goes down.

Do a search here of the 3849 and you will find lots of other issues people have experienced because the processor is undersized trying to do double the MP on the same chip as the 4MP version.

 

[Maanu1141]

That camera isn't on the ideal MP/sensor ratio and unless you have TONS of light, the 4MP will outperform once the light goes down.

Do a search here of the 3849 and you will find lots of other issues people have experienced because the processor is undersized trying to do double the MP on the same chip as the 4MP version.

Ok, thanks ! I managed to find a Dahua HDW3449H-AS-PV-PRO on an international site. I think i'm pretty sure that's what i need for the front exterior of the market but on the lateral side of the house i'm still not sure what i should pick. Would there be a good option to get only one camera with a very wide angle instead of two ? But i guess with that wide angle i'm gonna lose details in the distance, right ? Would a 5442 be better suited than that 3449 ? I don't really need very good night vision since the area has constantly some light in the night time. Are there any good PTZ options from Dahua so i can get only one of those instead of two fixed ones ?

 

[bigredfish]

i just can t seem to find that 3449 anywhere, i only see 3849 which seems to be identical except it's 4k version ? is this ok for exterior in front of the shop and on the lateral side of the house ?

Dahua Full Color WizSense TiOC IPC-HDW3849H-AS-PV-0280B-S4​

Also , would a Dahua IPC-HDW5442TM-ASE-S3 be a better option than that 3849 for the exterior ? If i get a noticeable better video quality i think i can give up that alarm and lightning , i saw this one is really praised along this community .

The 5442 is a great camera. But it doesn’t have white LEDs or warning flashing lights you first requested and the mic isn’t as good and has no two way talk .

It would need a LOT of ambient white light to run in color. If B&W with IR is ok with you then yes it’s a great choice

 

[bigredfish]

Ok, thanks ! I managed to find a Dahua HDW3449H-AS-PV-PRO on an international site. I think i'm pretty sure that's what i need for the front exterior of the market but on the lateral side of the house i'm still not sure what i should pick. Would there be a good option to get only one camera with a very wide angle instead of two ? But i guess with that wide angle i'm gonna lose details in the distance, right ? Would a 5442 be better suited than that 3449 ? I don't really need very good night vision since the area has constantly some light in the night time. Are there any good PTZ options from Dahua so i can get only one of those instead of two fixed ones ?

Little to no difference in a fixed lens 5442 vs the 3449 Pro as far as FOV. They both come in 2.8 and 3.6mm

There is a 5442 variable focus which would give you more distance. You have to decide how much distance you need

 

[Maanu1141]

Little to no difference in a fixed lens 5442 vs the 3449 Pro as far as FOV. They both come in 2.8 and 3.6mm

There is a 5442 variable focus which would give you more distance. You have to decide how much distance you need

Hello! Today I’m planning to order the 3449 Pro for the front of the market, and I had a question regarding a camera for the side of my house.

Would the Dahua HDW5442T-ZE 4MP WizMind Eyeball IP Camera with a 2.7–12mm motorized varifocal lens (114°–47°) be a good option? I noticed it's motorized, which seems practical—I'd only need one camera instead of two fixed-lens models, since I mainly want to monitor the yard while I’m away (around 2–3 weeks per year). I could simply adjust the view remotely via the app when needed. Does that setup make sense?

Also, do you think there’s a better alternative to the 3449 Pro from another brand—perhaps a superior option from Hikvision or any other reputable brands?

Thanks a lot in advance!