Blue Iris setup using Tailscale or similar

[nutshellml]

Hi All, running Windows 10 on dedicated PC for Blue Iris and have tailscale on my phone and PC. I'm wondering if someone can help explain or advise on what should set for the below on Blue Iris and also on my iPhone app for Blue iris.

LAN http:
WAN http:

When I set the LAN to the Tailscale IP (ie. 100.xx.xxx.xx:81) it works without issues. Do i need to worry about the WAN?

Also - is there a way to provide access to say the babysitter when she comes to view the cameras or say someone else that doesn't have tailscale to view the cameras temporarily? Does that make sense? I'm thinking probably not since tailscale provides VPN, but trying to figure out a solution for allowing temp access to someone without them having to download Tailscale.

Any advice is appreciated.

 

[samplenhold]

I access my BI setup remotely two different ways, using the iPhone BI app and using UI3 from a laptop in my RV. I was originally using Tailscale for both, but had issues not consistently connecting the iPhone app, so I ended up using ZeroTier for that. I still use Tailscale for the laptop access in my RV.

So I can't answer your LAN/WAN question. But as far as providing access for a babysitter, if you give her LAN access (like WIFI access), then she could use either the iPhone app or UI3 on her smartphone. No need to use Tailscale from your LAN.

 

[NoProblems]

Hi All, running Windows 10 on dedicated PC for Blue Iris and have tailscale on my phone and PC. I'm wondering if someone can help explain or advise on what should set for the below on Blue Iris and also on my iPhone app for Blue iris.

LAN http:
WAN http:

When I set the LAN to the Tailscale IP (ie. 100.xx.xxx.xx:81) it works without issues. Do i need to worry about the WAN?

Also - is there a way to provide access to say the babysitter when she comes to view the cameras or say someone else that doesn't have tailscale to view the cameras temporarily? Does that make sense? I'm thinking probably not since tailscale provides VPN, but trying to figure out a solution for allowing temp access to someone without them having to download Tailscale.

Any advice is appreciated.

Once you grant access via Tailscale, the person, like your babysitter, will have the same access to your local network as if they were on your LAN, even from outside your home. Tailscale simply provides full network access without the need to change anything in Blue Iris. All you need to do is use the Tailscale-provided IP (100.xx.x.x.x.1). on the app or browser without opening and ports just make sure make sure you have allow local network acess checked

 

[nutshellml]

Once you grant access via Tailscale, the person, like your babysitter, will have the same access to your local network as if they were on your LAN, even from outside your home. Tailscale simply provides full network access without the need to change anything in Blue Iris. All you need to do is use the Tailscale-provided IP (100.xx.x.x.x.1). on the app or browser without open and ports

that’s the thing. I don’t want to have babysitter or guest download Tailscale. Set it up etc. if Tailscale is constantly running on my BI PC, is it still possible for remote/temp access for babysittter? I’m assuming not?

 

[NoProblems]

that’s the thing. I don’t want to have babysitter or guest download Tailscale. Set it up etc. if Tailscale is constantly running on my BI PC, is it still possible for remote/temp access for babysittter? I’m assuming not?

I would forget tailscale . and just open port 81 and create a temp username and passwrd in BI and give it to the babysittertehn just change the password each time baby090524 (babydate)

 

[samplenhold]

Or give her access to a guest account WIFI. Only turn it on when she is there.

 

[nutshellml]

I would forget tailscale . and just open port 81 and create a temp username and passwrd in BI and give it to the babysittertehn just change the password each time baby090524 (babydate)

I was hoping to not open/forward Ports , hence using tailscale for more security. But i guess that will prohibit me giving temporary access to someone unless they use tailscale.

 

[samplenhold]

You don't need to 'open' ports. Just use UI3 from your LAN. Give her WIFI access from a guest WIFI account and a guest BI account. Turn off the guest WIFI account when she is not there. If you are really worried, turn off the guest BI account when she is not there.

 

[samplenhold]

Or set up a cheap tablet for UI3 that stays in your home. Many of us have them positioned around the home for viewing cam groups. Set it up in kiosk mode.

 

[nutshellml]

You don't need to 'open' ports. Just use UI3 from your LAN. Give her WIFI access from a guest WIFI account and a guest BI account. Turn off the guest WIFI account when she is not there. If you are really worried, turn off the guest BI account when she is not there.

AHH OKAY.. I was saying I didn't want to open/forward ports so I switched to Tailscale, if i didn't use tailscale or nothing, i would have to open/forward port for BI to work from the outside, correct?

And not using tailscale - home LAN/Network, she basically just connects the way you said but that won't work IF I use tailscale , correct?)

 

[samplenhold]

Tailscale is a VPN that runs on your home LAN and allows a secure connection (tunnel) to your home LAN from outside your LAN. Tailscale running will NOT stop a local connection. So while I have Taliscale running on my BI PC, it has no impact on any local connections. So my office PC (in my home office) can connect to BI using UI3 locally. My iPad that is on my home WIFI can connect to BI via UI3 also. Neither of these use Tailscale.

 

[samplenhold]

if i didn't use tailscale or nothing, i would have to open/forward port for BI to work from the outside, correct?

that is correct. Especially the part 'or nothing', like openvpn or some other VPN.

 

[wittaj]

You are mixing up two different things.

If she is on your wifi, with UI3 she can access the cameras and when she is away from your house, she will not be able to.

If you give her Tailscale, then she can see your house when not at your house, unless you limit the hours that username can be accessing.

Or as someone said, just get a cheap tablet to run UI3 on that they can use.