Can an Axis camera send a .wav file from Blue Iris on an Alert?

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Looking for very flexible cameras for a new installation. Riolink doesn't cut it for this use case.

Any thoughts?
 
No need to make a post for every camera brand you are thinking of LOL.

You have it backwards.

See my reply in your other thread:

Maybe i need to .... four cameras, Amcrest, Dahua, Reolink and none of them work with BI on sending our audio. Maybe someone can name a model number of a camera that is known to work....Ken sends me back to the forum, respectfully, w
 
I don't know what sending a .wav file means, so maybe answering the wrong question. I can hear the audio from my Dahua cameras connected to BI using ONVIF . Some models are 5442 fixed focal, and 541R fixed focal.
 
Use Case: someone approaches your property during 10pm-6am when really no one at my property is usually awake...camera trigger and BI sends our a message via a .wav (microsoft) file.

Message might be...."You have been identified and property owner has been notified." For security at night (via a profile), this is a whole lot better than filming the intruder. no?

To use two-way talk on a Amcrest or Dahua, you have to be on your device or at your NVR to do the same thing.
 
This is like the 3rd thread you have started about this LOL.

Yes a camera with a speaker can do this.

As I mentioned in this thread that you didn't reply to my question on did you use these settings:

Audio doesn't follow ONVIF protocol, so you have to find the right protocol in BI.

This is what works for my Amcrest and Dahua cameras with 2-way audio (10 different models):


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Where mainstream is:

/cam/realmonitor?channel={CAMNO}&subtype=0&authbasic={AUTH64}&proto=Onvif

and substream is:

/cam/realmonitor?channel={CAMNO}&subtype=1&authbasic={AUTH64}&proto=Onvif
 
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Answering a different but related question, with the 4k-x you can download an audio file which the camera will play through its speaker when an IVS rule is triggered.
 
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This is like the 3rd thread you have started about this LOL.

Yes a camera with a speaker can do this.

As I mentioned in this thread that you didn't reply to my question on did you use these settings:

Audio doesn't follow ONVIF protocol, so you have to find the right protocol in BI.

This is what works for my Amcrest and Dahua cameras with 2-way audio (10 different models):


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Where mainstream is:

/cam/realmonitor?channel={CAMNO}&subtype=0&authbasic={AUTH64}&proto=Onvif

and substream is:

/cam/realmonitor?channel={CAMNO}&subtype=1&authbasic={AUTH64}&proto=Onvif


You comment that all cameras that have a speaker support this, but the BI manual said they have reversed engineered, some models, which tells me its not plug and play....being in the software business for 30 years has taught me something about the need to reverse engineer something.

BI Manual

Using a microphone to talk or send audio to the camera is supported for many models in
one of several ways:

Amcrest AD and ASH models are supported using a proprietary DLL and connection.

For many other specific make/model selections (not generic/ONVIF), “talk” has been
reverse engineered. This includes many models offered by Axis, Wansview (and its many
compatibles), Sharx, Trendnet (and its many compatibles), DLink, Hikvision, LevelOne,
AVTech, Dahua, Doorbird, and others.

I went through a suggested list of models (maybe yours) and bought two. Two-way works via the Amcrest app and none of the protocols worked through BI in my setup. I tried all the protocols, four cameras and zero worked. All audio just plays at the NVR, which is BI says happens when it works.

Your above settings are nearly the defaults for BI. It of course be an environmental thing here...at my site.

Care to name a model you use that will allow a .wav files to play on the camera's speaker? Now, that would be a benefit to this forum.

Best,

w
 
It is called "reverse engineering" because as I said, audio does not follow ONVIF standards, so he figured out which protocol to use for some standard cameras.

If you hit the find/inspect button in BI, it will not pull up that configuration, so no it is not the default settings that I posted.

EVERY camera that is in my recommended list in this thread that has a speaker, this works for.

From that list:

  • 4K/X turret - anything within 20 feet of the camera OR as an overview camera. The turret versions have a mic and the 4K/X bullet has two-way audio. These cameras need light and cannot see infrared. Keep in mind the larger sensor does mean the camera has a more shallow focus and has a definite sweet spot for focus and anything closer or further away will be a little soft. It is why most use it as an overview camera to capture color.
  • Color4K-T180 - is a great overview camera and can see 180 degrees left-right, so one on the front of the house can see down the entire front (unless you have obstructions LOL). This camera needs light and cannot see infrared. Most would not use this as an IDENTIFY camera. This camera has two-way audio.
  • T5449H-ASE-D2 2.8mm fixed lens - anything within 10 feet of camera where the object would be in a backlit condition at night (meaning the object is in between the camera and the light source which is common for a house with no lights but a streetlight - the person will be in the shadow of the streetlight from the camera's perspective). This camera has two-way audio.
  • 4M-T - Great little active deterrence camera with two way talk. Good for anything within 10 feet of camera or as an overview camera. On the ideal MP/sensor ratio. Basically the 54IR (5442) with the red/blue lights and a speaker.
  • LPR413-Z3 - This is a plate reader camera that will read and log the plates. Works well to 100 feet. It is big and has visible IR (730nm). Has two-way audio.
  • TPC124XB-AI S2- Thermal camera that is great for seeing what is out there that visual cameras cannot see. It is immune to snow, rain, dark, etc. You will not identify with this camera, but you can make out the shapes. Makes for a great spotter cam for a PTZ.
  • Indoors, the Amcrest IP2M-841 is a cheap common camera choice. Works with Dahua NVR and Blue Iris. Has wifi and ability to use POE with this adapter. Has two-way talk and basic autotracking.

And then my other cameras that are not on the list include:

Ooof - Now that reminded me that because that was a PTZ, it was a little different.

This is what you need to use to gain full functionality of the camera in Blue Iris (Select Amcrest and then the Model that starts with AD110):

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The substream isn't pulled in, so you need to copy the mainstream and change subtype=0 to subtype=1

/cam/realmonitor?channel={CAMNO}&subtype=1&authbasic={AUTH64}&proto=Onvif


And then for the PTZ controls, select Amcrest ASH21

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