Cat6, Fiber optics, or wireless bridge to shed
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I found this site to, 150’ om3 3 pairs terminated in LC with loop on spool for about $250. Another $25 for your modules.
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I don’t even need to dig a trench, can pull it with vibratory plow. Thing is the cost of the pvc conduit will be greater than the cost of fiber - I think. And fiber would probably be better.
I guess I’ve been looking up the wrong stuff - could have sworn I have seen custom length cables for under $40.
Check out this fiber -- Certainly doesn't break the bank but is it junk? It is amazon...
There is also this as linked on the page before. Cost a little more, and there is a shipping charge. I'd go this route but they don't seem to have the proper SFP modules for it. If I'm gonna pay shipping I'd like to get everything needed.
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There is also this as linked on the page before. Cost a little more, and there is a shipping charge. I'd go this route but they don't seem to have the proper SFP modules for it. If I'm gonna pay shipping I'd like to get everything needed.
OS1 Simplex LC UPC Fiber Patch Cable - Ubiquiti Store
Outdoor OS1 single-mode fiber cable with simplex LC UPC connectors.
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I you have a friend you can bribe to terminate the fiber, you can probably do it for less.
I linked the same thing above. It isn't the best type of fiber for your application, but it is probably the cheapest pre-terminated indoor/outdoor fiber you're going to find.
I hate buying from amazon anyway -- I'll probably pass on that fiber
Do you see the right transceivers on the Ubiquiti website? I'd buy it all from there if I could find it. Guess I could send an email and see if they reply.
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Here are the specs on that cable from the Ubiquit website
It doesn't have a pulling eye and isn't as robust an assembly as some of the other options. It's single mode fiber which is used for long distances. Multi mode is typically used for shorter distances, but single mode will work.
Ubiquiti does sell SFP adapters that should work with this cable, but they're simplex meaning you need 2 SFP ports on each end unlike the duplex multimode ones.
1G Bidirectional Single-Mode Optical Module - Ubiquiti Store
SFP transceiver that supports 1G connections up to 3 km using single-mode fiber with a simplex LC UPC connector.
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Ok thanks for that -- I'm learning
I don't have enough SFP ports so that option is out.
What does 2 strand, 4 strand 6 strand mean for the multimode stuff? How many strands are needed for multimode?
And is a pulling eye necessary for a 4" conduit pull?
I don't have enough SFP ports so that option is out.
What does 2 strand, 4 strand 6 strand mean for the multimode stuff? How many strands are needed for multimode?
And is a pulling eye necessary for a 4" conduit pull?
BiDi modules means they are bi-directional and only ONE strand of fiber is needed for rx/tx because they use different wavelengths for Rx/tx and as stated on the website you have to use "matching pairs" because one SFP will transmit on 1310nm while receiving on 1550nm.The other SFP has to be opposite,
The ubiquiti SFP you linked to will work great utilizing only ONE SFP port on each switch. Duplex modules however needs 2 fiber strands with for example a duplex LC connector (That is in reality only 2 LC connectors held together by a plastic clip)
I consequently use singlemode fiber on all my runs for simplicity, even on the short runs. I even have some 1meter patch cables interconnecting switches using single mode fiber.
FS.com is a great place to buy SFP modules and pre-terminated fibers. If you look under the custom fibers, there is even "industrial/military spec" fibers with TPU jacket that can be direct buried.
The ubiquiti SFP you linked to will work great utilizing only ONE SFP port on each switch. Duplex modules however needs 2 fiber strands with for example a duplex LC connector (That is in reality only 2 LC connectors held together by a plastic clip)
I consequently use singlemode fiber on all my runs for simplicity, even on the short runs. I even have some 1meter patch cables interconnecting switches using single mode fiber.
FS.com is a great place to buy SFP modules and pre-terminated fibers. If you look under the custom fibers, there is even "industrial/military spec" fibers with TPU jacket that can be direct buried.
1 1/2” pvc conduit at the big box stores is $2 per foot. Thank you Joe Biden for the war on petroleum products.
I have been using TP-Link Pharos system for the last 3 years linking house to a shed 300 feet away and also installed the same between commercial offices and a Pavilion 500 feet away. - CPE510 system is ultra reliable and very reasonably priced. Stated range up to 13KM away so a few hundred feet is simple.. lol
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I installed a pair of the same CPE510's in June of '23 to link my stepmom's house to barn about 150 ft., not a hiccup since, getting 80Mbps up/down from a Netgear wireless AP in the guest house section there in the barn.
I installed a pair of the 2.4GHz version, the CPE210, at a client's place in Jan. of '23 to go only 60 ft. but some vegetation and mis-alignment of the main house and the shop but it still works great and he can stream TV with no issues.
I'm a big Ubiquiti fan but when the availability was so bad in '22 and '23 I tried the TP-LINK's and they have worked great. I had been using their PCIe and USB wireless adapters, switches and PLA's for 10 or more years with great results.
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Can you say more about this vibratory plow and the conduit you pull with it? I think I understand what you're talking about, but I have never seen one in action.
I have an application where I may want to run some conduit about 100' under an established lawn, and it would be nice not to tear up the lawn too badly.
TheWaterbug
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Does anyone know why a PVC elbow is more than 5x the cost of a PVC tee, when the tee actually uses 35% more material?
I recently bought some of those elbows. My guess is that they're a low volume part, with more per-piece overhead and less competition. A few years ago my Home Depot had them in stock. Now, they don't.
The vibratory plow "puller" is basically a knife blade with a sling attached for holding pipe or wire. Lower blade into ground, vibrate the blade, and drive slow. Pipe gets dragged underground behind the blade.
Damage to ground is really dependent on soil conditions and pulling depth. Roots are worse than rocks. Ideal conditions and you barely can see the line.
I have been using a puller with PVC pipe for over 35 years. My machine is a ditch witch 350SX. 1980's vintage. In ideal soil conditions I can pull 2" pvc pipe, 2 feet down. 100 feet of distance is nothing.
I generally run a thinner wall PVC pipe than sch 40 for irrigation lines but the puller doesn't care what pipe I pull. You glue whatever length you need together above ground be it 40 feet or 900 feet.
Give the glue a few minutes to set up, then start pulling. MUST use pipe with built in couplings. The sockets are much longer vs stand alone couplings, plus there is only 1 glue joint per connection.
I've been busy lately so I still haven't pulled the line to my shed, I'll get a video when I do. Maybe this weekend.
As for that funky PVC tri elbow fitting. It's definitely a low demand, "specialty" fitting. In over 35 years installing PVC pipe and fittings I've never used one.