Computer based NVR

NilNiner

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Jan 7, 2023
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Hey,
I'm in the process of looking into a camera system. Currently I have 2 eufy cams which in my opinion are absolute garbage.

My experience with euphy cams are that they 100% aren't reliable and don't start recording fast enough. Events are for sure missed completely or truncated at the start/end. I can barely consider these things a novelty.

I think I want to move to an NVR based system that uses PoE style cameras. My requirements are really quite simple.

I would need up to a maximum of 4 4k cameras with really great IR night vision(not spotlight color). A mix of 120-90° fov, basic motion detection, any AI would be a plus. The primary purpose is more for insurance, wildlife tracking, and general awareness of events on the property as opposed to a heavy security drive. But really at this point I'm trying to ask about nvr hardware and software but thought the cameras and usage might have value to the discussion.

Anyway, the real question(s) are:
1) I have a stupid expensive computer sitting idle doing little more then running my plex server. Can I just repurpose this as an NVR? What software options are there? How bad are they? Am I just better off getting a dedicated NVR solution despite my small requirements? I am interested in remote access, which in my case might be a bit trickier without a helper app since I'm on starlink and don't currently have an IP(kinda).

This post is a thought mess but really just looking for pros/cons or computer based or dedicated NVR solutions and how that might affect my cam choices.
 
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Don't chase MP. There is currently no good 4K camera that sees infrared...

If you find a 4K camera that sees infrared, then it is on a small sensor and not the 1/1.2" sensor.

Chase sensor size, not MP.

See this thread on the importance of focal length over MP. In many instances, 2MP is more than adequate.

 
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It's a more pleasant user experience looking at the past 24 hours of events from the console of a Blue Iris PC.
It's a more pleasant experience setting up an easy 1.2.3 NVR and getting cameras going, but reviewing previous events , in my opinion, is lackluster at best.
 
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Hey,
I'm in the process of looking into a camera system. Currently I have 2 eufy cams which in my opinion are absolute garbage.

My experience with euphy cams are that they 100% aren't reliable and don't start recording fast enough. Events are for sure missed completely or truncated at the start/end. I can barely consider these things a novelty.

I think I want to move to an NVR based system that uses PoE style cameras. My requirements are really quite simple.

I would need up to a maximum of 4 4k cameras with really great IR night vision(not spotlight color). A mix of 120-90° fov, basic motion detection, any AI would be a plus. The primary purpose is more for insurance, wildlife tracking, and general awareness of events on the property as opposed to a heavy security drive. But really at this point I'm trying to ask about nvr hardware and software but thought the cameras and usage might have value to the discussion.

Anyway, the real question(s) are:
1) I have a stupid expensive computer sitting idle doing little more then running my plex server. Can I just repurpose this as an NVR? What software options are there? How bad are they? Am I just better off getting a dedicated NVR solution despite my small requirements? I am interested in remote access, which in my case might be a bit trickier without a helper app since I'm on starlink and don't currently have an IP(kinda).

This post is a thought mess but really just looking for pros/cons or computer based or dedicated NVR solutions and how that might affect my cam choices.

Welcome @NilNiner

" .. A mix of 120-90° fov .."

I would recommend picking up one varifocal camera and playing with it before purchasing an entire system, as once you start to learn more about FOV and DORI ( and effective pixels on target ) it makes picking the other cameras FOV spec easier.
 
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Blue Iris is a great computer based NVR.

Here are all the threads talking about the pros and cons of Blue Iris versus NVR
Ok, had a quick look. The pricing is a lot less then I thought it was going to be for that software. Considering I have most of the hardware already (short POE ports) I think I will give this a shot.


Don't chase MP. There is currently no good 4K camera that sees infrared...

If you find a 4K camera that sees infrared, then it is on a small sensor and not the 1/1.2" sensor.

Chase sensor size, not MP.

See this thread on the importance of focal length over MP. In many instances, 2MP is more than adequate.

Yes, makes 100% sense. I should prioritize the infrared video quality first as that's more so what I want. Do you have a particular suggestion of who is doing this tech best?

Welcome @NilNiner

" .. A mix of 120-90° fov .."

I would recommend picking up one varifocal camera and playing with it before purchasing an entire system, as once you start to learn more about FOV and DORI ( and effective pixels on target ) it makes picking the other cameras FOV spec easier.
I have read DORI principals a few months ago. Because my focus isn't security so much as wild life it's vastly simpler as I can "identify" a cat vs lynx vs dog much easier than a Joe vs Sally. I've drafted my land/home a while ago and what I was thinking was to sketch in my fov's on that drawing and use that to determine specs. I think your suggestion still stands depending on price differences.

Overall I think the conclusion to go with a software NVR seems pretty straight forward right now. I don't know if there are any negative considerations that haven't really been talked about? Perhaps lack of camera function support? I'm not sure.
 
BI has a 15 day free demo, so download it and see what you think.

Many of us here believe that the Dahua brand provides the best overall bang for buck in terms of performance, cost, and reliability.

We have a member here @EMPIRETECANDY that has an Amazon and Aliexpress store and provides great prices and great support. His cameras are Dahua OEM that are a lot cheaper than the logo Dahua cams.

Here is a link to his Amazon Canada store:

 
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BI has a 15 day free demo, so download it and see what you think.

Many of us here believe that the Dahua brand provides the best overall bang for buck in terms of performance, cost, and reliability.

We have a member here @EMPIRETECANDY that has an Amazon and Aliexpress store and provides great prices and great support. His cameras are Dahua OEM that are a lot cheaper than the logo Dahua cams.

Here is a link to his Amazon Canada store:

You guys are exceptionally helpful, thank you. (:
 
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