Condensation in the dome

Shockwave199

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The first dahua 2mp mini dome never had the problem for years and then suddenly did, to the point that eventually the water from condensation killed it. Two weeks ago I replaced it with the same type new 2mp mini dome- because the guy bought the extra one initially in case one took a dump along the way. All was good for a week and now it's got condensation in the dome too. Two others out there facing the same direction on the same wall never have the problem ever. Just this one camera spot. I silicone the shit out of it when installing it. I just can't figure it. Personally I hate domes for this reason and others. It's been my experience that once they have this problem it never corrects. But two different cameras on the same run doing it? Weird. I know it's just a matter of time before this new camera takes a crap because of it. Even silica packs don't help. I tried to tell him to buy a turrent instead but he wanted this mini dome installed to reduce the down time. I didn't agree but I'm still perplexed why this happens on only this one run. Any thoughts?
 
Shockwave,

In a previous life, I worked in product development at a place that made cameras to be mounted on vehicles, inside & out. IP67. To test the design, we'd immerse the cam in 3ft of water for 30 minutes. The design passed.

The cam had a 3.5ft pigtail to the connector. Not an RJ45, but a sealed IP67 connector. Long story short, the mating portion of the connector was sealed. (The M & F electrical contacts were kept dry.) However, we found water was getting under the cable jacket. Water travelled down the cable. The insulated twisted pair conductors were fine, the copper didn't get wet. But the jacket acted as a pathway for water to enter the camera.

Only some of the multiple cameras mounted on the vehicle were getting condensation inside the camera. We'd replace the cam, and the problem would re-appear later. WTF? Why would that happen? We pulled our hair out (with help from the customer)

Who woulda thought water could travel 3.5ft down a cable that had an extruded jacket? Well, it can. The twisted pairs contains enough space between conductors. The camera's thermal cycles probably created an atmospheric pressure difference as well. The rest was probably capillary action. Only the cams with connectors exposed to water had condensation. In hindsight, we should have guessed.

So my hunch: Check where the connections reside. Could moisture enter the connectors, then travel inside the cable jacket, past all that silicone at the camera's mounting location, and continue into the cam?

The IP pigtail is a round, extruded jacket cable. Probably PVC jacket. The round semi-outdoor RJ45 female has a hard plastic headshell. The headshell-to-cable junction is impossible to seal easily. (PVC to Plastic interface) I don't remember seeing any sealant between the two materials on my Dahua dome. If the connectors were stuffed into a soffit, maybe water is getting in there from rain gutter overflow? Maybe the temp difference between the cam (outside) and connectors (inside the soffit) leads to moisture wicking down the cable and into the camera? The cable jacket is sealed to the dome base - but water inside the jacket could travel right past?

Good luck.

Fastb
 
Only the camera mounted to the exterior wall is exposed. The connection is in the interior of the building above a drop ceiling. I made sure to put insulation around the area and space where the wire comes through to the inside. It's truly condensation, not water from rain. These cameras run quite warm. I suppose it can be susceptible, when the exterior temperature and interior dome temperature are at a certain point. I have also found with domes that the humidity of the day you install them and close up the dome can matter. But this one run, two different cameras while the others are fine. I'm kinda clueless as to why.
 
replace your domes with turrets ;)

friends dont let friends do domes..
 
Domes are definitely the worst for outdoors. As nayr says, replace them with turrets.