looney2ns
IPCT Contributor
Varifocal cameras are not designed to be moving the lens in and out on a regular basis. Set the field of view you need, then leave them be.
Dahua NVR + Home assistant.
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Cheers, figured that might be the case. Kinda hoped they had the same ptz motor.
If I got a PTZ is it ok to break the 4mp 1/8"rule to save money.
PTZ5A4M-25X would be lovely but that's 700+ usd so 1500aud lol
EmpireTech Starlight 4MP 25x 1/2.8" CMOS IR Smart PTZ Camera, 5mm–125mm Lens, Auto-Tracking Support,Perimeter Protection, Face Detection, SMD 3.0, IP66, IK10 Protection, Mini PTZ Camera PTZ425DB-AT - Was679 AUD, only one spot I was thinking of one day. I know the lowlight will be sacrificed, it's not really a major need as I'm probably gonna just get the varifocals tz54s3's (got 2 already and they are nice). Got frigate NVR setup. Haven't tested blue iris yet enough.
But I am wondering can I do ANPR (via external software not nvr as steve said I believe) with that ptz425DB-AT or do you really need the ptz5am-25x - Would be running on blue iris hopefully which I have to setup (Trying to find a spare hdd). Still not sure if I need the NVR or if frigate + blue iris can cover the features.
One option locally is the nvr5432-16p-ai/anz which I know is limited, 700 dollars + 450 for a 10tb wd purple. I was thinking more to save for a decent server with i5 14600k or i7 14700k, 64or96gb ram ddr5, Hailo8 Nvme (27TOPS vs corals 2tops?), 4060ti 16gb, 4 wd RED's for a nas 10tb or so each + 1-2wd purples, i226v 2.5gbe nic (I run proxmox with a bunch of VM's and LXCs, home assistant, etc). The 16p-xi I only see on aliexpress for 2k lol. Hard decision. Acupic looks cool, but if I can save700-2000 not buying an NVR, my "dream" server is 5400 (NAS, CCTV, etc).
One important question. Are these cameras waterproof/rainproof? I live in a high rainfall area. Thanks heaps for the help.
If I got a PTZ is it ok to break the 4mp 1/8"rule to save money.
PTZ5A4M-25X would be lovely but that's 700+ usd so 1500aud lol
EmpireTech Starlight 4MP 25x 1/2.8" CMOS IR Smart PTZ Camera, 5mm–125mm Lens, Auto-Tracking Support,Perimeter Protection, Face Detection, SMD 3.0, IP66, IK10 Protection, Mini PTZ Camera PTZ425DB-AT - Was679 AUD, only one spot I was thinking of one day. I know the lowlight will be sacrificed, it's not really a major need as I'm probably gonna just get the varifocals tz54s3's (got 2 already and they are nice). Got frigate NVR setup. Haven't tested blue iris yet enough.
But I am wondering can I do ANPR (via external software not nvr as steve said I believe) with that ptz425DB-AT or do you really need the ptz5am-25x - Would be running on blue iris hopefully which I have to setup (Trying to find a spare hdd). Still not sure if I need the NVR or if frigate + blue iris can cover the features.
One option locally is the nvr5432-16p-ai/anz which I know is limited, 700 dollars + 450 for a 10tb wd purple. I was thinking more to save for a decent server with i5 14600k or i7 14700k, 64or96gb ram ddr5, Hailo8 Nvme (27TOPS vs corals 2tops?), 4060ti 16gb, 4 wd RED's for a nas 10tb or so each + 1-2wd purples, i226v 2.5gbe nic (I run proxmox with a bunch of VM's and LXCs, home assistant, etc). The 16p-xi I only see on aliexpress for 2k lol. Hard decision. Acupic looks cool, but if I can save700-2000 not buying an NVR, my "dream" server is 5400 (NAS, CCTV, etc).
One important question. Are these cameras waterproof/rainproof? I live in a high rainfall area. Thanks heaps for the help.
I have found that at night, PTZs are even more critical to have on the ideal MP/sensor ratio because the PTZ has the focal length to zoom further out, so your range is quite limited if not on the ideal MP/sensor ratio.
PTZs can be used for ANPR but at night, they can only be used for plate reading. Due to the speed the shutter needs to be, it can't serve double duty of watching other things and then switch to plates because at the faster shutter speeds everything will be black and unlike a fixed cam where you can manually set the focus to a number, PTZs don't have that ability, so it would need to basically become a fixed lens camera at night and be set to that specific field of view before night time so that there is enough light to get a focus.
Most of us have found AcuPick is gimmicky and not useful in a home setting.
These cameras are rated for water and many folks in wet areas like Seattle have used them for years exposed outside.
Cheers. Should I even bother with a dahua NVR? or put that money to a server. ATM I have frigate NVR running coral ai on optiplexes, just not sure what I will miss out on without the NVR. It's another 7-900 + 400ish for hdd, I'm kinda hoping wishfully BI + CPAI and Frigate NVR will be able to replace the nvr completely but I'm not sure about the metadata. I'll give the PTZ a miss, bit out of my budget in current circumstances. There was someone on alibaba saying they have the NVR5216-16P-XI New Dahua AcuPick 16CH 1U 16POE 2HDDs WizMind Network Video Recorder NVR5216-16P-XI for 900, they say it's international version for $900 aud shipped to me.
Mark_M
Known around here
Absolutely, keep using your Frigate server and Coral TPU unit.
A 2nd Blue Iris, or xProtect, or Nx Witness, or Frigate server can all work together.
It's about your network setup of the cameras. If the servers have access to each camera, then it can login and start recording video from them.
Hi guys, you're genius people, excellent job.
I have some questions.
1. What about the new AIOT Console from Dahua? (undefined - Dahua International)
2. Maybe it will allow a better integration with Home Assistant for TIOC's cameras?
3. Can you control the ALARM-out relay of these cameras on Home Assistant?
Greetings from Chile!
I have some questions.
1. What about the new AIOT Console from Dahua? (undefined - Dahua International)
2. Maybe it will allow a better integration with Home Assistant for TIOC's cameras?
3. Can you control the ALARM-out relay of these cameras on Home Assistant?
Greetings from Chile!
Mark_M
Known around here
The Home Assistant integration works with TiOC cameras. You can arm/disarm, sound siren, flash light.
Alarm output works for me. I do not have relay output working though (unless I use a CURL command from Home Assistant direct to the API URL).
Thanks for your answer.
Can you explain to me how I can use that CURL command to make it available as a switch in HASS?
I’m testing this 3 models of TIOC cameras, I read that the sensor of the camera is not good but I personally think that for the price the image it’s OK.
Bullet DH-IPC-HFW3849T1-AS-PV-S5
Duo DH-IPC-PDW3849-A180-AS-PV
Ptz DH-SDT4E425-4F-GB-A-PV1
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EmpireTech PTZ425DB-AT 1/2.8"CMOS 4MP 25x Starlight IR 5mm–125mm Vari-
1/2.8" 4Megapixel STARVIS™ CMOS | 25x optical zoom | Starlight technology | Max. 25/30fps@4MP | IR distance up to 100 m | Auto-tracking 1.0 | Perimeter protection | Face detection | SMD 3.0 | IP66
empiretech01.com
So being on a budget PTZ's are like whoa, this fails the 4mp 1/1.8" rule but is $500 vs the 1/1.8" 4mp @ $1000aud.
So far my setup is 1 tioc, whoops before I met you folk, 2 of the tz54 s3s 5442 s3 and was thinking a total of 7 of them. There's an annoying 2 meter blindspot at a gate entrance, I can get a camera facing backyard to see the back of their face, if they exit the other gate it would be 5-10m away from patio 5442(if I say 5442 it's the ET one, good camera, amazing low light). Then there'd be a gate facing the road camera but there's about a 2m or so gap in coverage due to an annoying awing unless I boom arm the camera out into the rain like 1meter facing away from the west gate.
You'd have to know my camera layout to know how to hide from that camera, basically hug the outside west fence to gate n exit via east gate but patio would see a long distance image. The west gate camera aiming to the backyard will get the back of their head, a few meters south is a doorway I was thinking of a cam. Do I just chuck a cheap reolink in the blind spot? Everywhere else I believe I can get ID's.
Secondly would that cheaper ptz be ok. Not sure where to put it as i'm on a corner street intersection. ATM the most important entrance point is covered plus my expensive shed interior, working my way down the list of what I believe is the most vulnerable. PTZ is probably more of a cool toy for my house. Also QLD australia has cctv laws about backyards and windows, Mainly I just care about ID'ing thieves n happy to share with neighbours, police as we have a lot of crime here atm. Part of me wants a dahua nvr for the facial ID but with frigate or blue iris (BI would probably be later after I build a better server with a GPU and CPAI). Learned my lesson on annoying USB caddies, one brand orico locked up proxmox so I've ordered a simplecom 328 that I have on a backup network storage drive ( I really need a bigger pc lol). Learning opnsense too and layer 3 networking.
Was curious on a doorbell recommended too. Been sick but my 18ru wallrack is up, probably should have gotten an 24ru 1000mm but ooops.
Finally I watched the local crime pages cameras. They hold shirts up to their noses, look at camera, ignore it, BUT I think they jiggle the door or set off some sort of vibration sensor. Soon as they do that, sirens (i've got 2 I can use and they're cheap hardwired via modbus on home assistant but haven't installed yet). What sensor did they trip? The Siren sends them running on all the vids I saw.
I'm guessing people arm it before sleep? Thanks again for all your help.