i ordered a NVR5208 from backstreet surveillance (without POE), figured they were in the US and shipped fast. Had a 10% off code SAVE10 ... was $328 shipped. But I received a different model with POE ... HNR31P8-8 ... i don't really have a need for the POE, the fan is kinda loud to keep the unit in my bedroom. Took me a while as this was my first system but I got it working with both cameras and see them on my phone with the app. I can't really tell much of a difference between the 2.8 and 3.6 ... I will probably order another 2 3.6.