DS-7600NI-I2 where is that H265 support?

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klasipca

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Maybe I am missing something, but I don't see H265 as option. It defaults to H264 and it's grayed out.
 
I think both the camera and NVR must support H.265 for it to not be grayed out, and it's on a per-channel basis. That model definitely supports it, but it might depend on the cameras as well. My E2 7600s allegedly support H.265 and I have all 3145s (which do support H.265 as well) but in parenthesis it says "initial connection only" or something to that extent. Looked at it the other day but can't remember the exact words. If that is the case, that's quite silly. My stuff works fine on H.264, but I really wanted to bump them up to the higher codec since apparently all of the hardware supported it. (wasn't sure if the E2 models did or not) I haven't researched it since because it works, but still bothersome to me.

Your sig indicates 3 and 4MP cameras - the 4s should most definitely support it if they're 3145s or similar generation.
 
The camera is Longse which has H265 stream, but NVR doesn't seem to recognize it there is some setting that needs to be enabled which I haven't found. I don't have Hikvision with 265 to test out.
 
It's also possible that that can only be enabled on like Hikvision devices. If I can see any company adding that as a restriction, it's Hikvision. (Although that would be pointless, whereas the region locks are a clear marketing weapon) That would deviate from H.265 being standardized and anything ONVIF stands for, but who knows. I have Hikvision H.265 cams and still can't get it to work. If anything is going to work its going to be like-branded equipment, and still no dice for me. The camera standalone yields the same result, so I'm not sure my 7608-E2 is all to blame.


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The E2 doesn't support 265. I have newer I2 which suppose to support it.
 
I didn't think it did, but the current firmware in mine references toggles to enable it. (3.4.2)

Yours supports a myriad of other stuff too like 12MP 4K stuff. Fancy. The least they could give you is H.265. Actually the documentation says so. I've never once read their setup manuals but most of it is fairly straightforward.

In your manual:
http://oversea-download.hikvision.c...deo Recorder_76&77&96NI-I_V3.3.4_20150731.pdf

I find only 1 reference to H.265 and also nearby H.264+, which I believe was a Hikvision-specific implementation of an enhanced version of H.264.
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Based on this inference alone, it leads me to believe a Hikvision camera is the prerequisite to use H.265. That could be totally wrong, but what you describe with what the manual seems to imply, I feel that unfortunately that might be the case. You'd need an H.265 camera to truly find that out.

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I2 has the same setting as E2 "initial connection only", the wording of that doesn't mean it supports streaming with this option.
 
What does it mean by initial connection? What in H.265 is beneficial to the initial connection that H.264 is lacking on? What I wouldn't do for better documentation...

I'm trying to think of why you would want cameras to start off as H.265 during the handshake and step down to 264 thereafter. There must be some technical reason that I can't wrap my head around. Taken at face value, that is complete backwards logic.
 
How much did your I2 cost? Just wondering. Finding those in the US is difficult and expensive. None of my stuff ever calls for 4K anything, but the physical redesign of those recorders is amazing. They're so pretty :P and pretty expensive.


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it was $450 from aliexpress shipped in 5 days to US.
 
For an 8 channel? That's not bad. US region?

I need to order a couple 32CH 7700s and they're all turning up over $1000. The E equivalent? In the 600 range. From China of course, and US regioned as I always stick to for recorders. I'm probably going to end up sticking to Es for awhile until prices on those drop. Although I might get one to play with. Toys are always a good thing to have :)


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16, I didn't really need 4k stuff, but 8 channel wasn't enough for me on E2 and I figured just to get the latest and the greatest.
 
I'm a bleeding edge type of person so that's my philosophy for most things. Neither do I, I actually still have a box TV.

Found a 7732 for $597! That's incredible. And it's US regioned! Well I've found my new purchasing channel that's for sure. That's cheaper than the E4 I was looking at. :D

They don't take PayPal though. I'm not sure I want to hand my CC over directly to the seller, or how does that work? Just curious. Never purchased from AE before.


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Shopping directly from China always has its risks, you are somewhat protected by Aliexpress, so it's ok to use CC because the money goes into escrow and not the seller until you confirm you received the item in good shape. In general if you don't expect Amazon-like customer service and Apple like build quality on most things you buy from there you'll be fine.
 
what dealer did you find at AE? .. it´s a jungle there when searching for things =D .. I´m looking for the [h=2]DS-7608NI-I2 /8p which I find for roughly 299 dollars from a couple of selers there but I want a good one though =)[/h]
 
i have a DS7716NI-I4 and 6 hikvision cams, one of which is a 'DS-2DE4220IW-D' and supports H265. and when use the mode, i can not view the recording outside of box, either via VLC, Quicktime, or the MAC Hikvision player. so i have had to revert to h264.
 
hmm that´s really bad .... I´m buying a NVR and I got 2 cameras that records with h.265 and I´m using it with the PC NVR version at the moment and it works just fine. it´s bad to hear that no-one seems to get it to work on the standalone NVR .. hmm well I´ll probably buy one anyway and hopes for the best in the next firmware upgrade perhaps
 
forgot to mention, even the web browser side of the NVR would not display any video either. to me sounds like they are using a non standard h265 codec.
 
klasipca said:
Shopping directly from China always has its risks, you are somewhat protected by Aliexpress, so it's ok to use CC because the money goes into escrow and not the seller until you confirm you received the item in good shape. In general if you don't expect Amazon-like customer service and Apple like build quality on most things you buy from there you'll be fine.
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The build quality is ultimately up to the manufacturer, and since Hikvision products are really the only thing I'm purchasing, I'm very familiar with their build quality and honestly can't complain. I've ordered all of my Chinese cams from there and my US NVRs from there, I've never had any major issues whatsoever. I know what I'm getting into and understand the risks involved which if you're familiar with the market and Hikvision in general, aren't really risks per se. I'm on my own for support besides on here if I were to happen to get stuck (just like with Chinese cams). Support elsewhere is just not there. Even so, I don't need it as I'm not tinkering with the inner workings of the devices. Installing them on camera jobs and letting them go.

That sounds like a reasonable payment method and will look into here soon. I don't think they take Amex though...
 
andyblac said:
forgot to mention, even the web browser side of the NVR would not display any video either. to me sounds like they are using a non standard h265 codec.
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Even their H.264/+ codec is proprietary. They take the standardized version of the codec and modify it for their own devices. VLC supports it out of the box but not much else. You're probably right and that trend is continuing with H.265, except they aren't even fully supporting it themselves even though it's their own product.
 
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